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Old 19-07-2008, 12:52 PM   #1
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Default AWD Turbo Mini Estate

Whilst researching how to beef up the gearbox on my other Swift powered Mini I came across this:

It was love at first sight, well almost, I wanted that performance / handling in a Mini.
So the idea is to use the Subaru Justy AWD setup with a G13B DOHC engine & slap on a TD04 Turbo (basically copy the setup of that awesome Swift)
I purchased a Justy from ebay for 450.00 & an absolute basket case van with no floor for 400.00, the idea being to cut the top off the Justy weld on the Mini van.

The Justy turned up today & it is in fantastic condition, seems a shame what I am about to do to it



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Should I save the Justy or the Mini Van

Thought about it for 3 seconds, pass me the cutting disks
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Old 19-07-2008, 09:55 PM   #2
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Hi Jerry,

Nice condition Justy!
Good buy that!

I will say cut up Justy and get yourelf a Swift GTi.
You will need a Gti wiring harness for G13B to work correct with Andy's ECU.

Anyway, there was a Mini(round nose) with Justy AWD system not so long ago in Minimag, not full feature but just a photo. So you can do it.
I think it will be good with Van.

If you want to speak with Andy(Garndi), let me know I got his mobile number!

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Old 19-07-2008, 11:06 PM   #3
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Sounds another great project and after seeing your others on here i have no doubt you will actually do it but ill ask the question many wont

How well do the justy/swifts actually handle? reason i ask is half the point of a 16v mini in my eyes is with time you can have looks, handling and power whereas this sways towards being just about power?

its fine if you want a quick drag car, that video proves it and if yours is half as quick it will surely put a smile on your face, and the looks as long as you keep it under the standard van length should look pure mini

but if a mates swift GTi is anything to go by the handling aint upto much even lowered on srings and 4wd on lower outputs i would have thought would hinder this further?

good luck with it anyway and put up as many pics as possible, i love seeing your projects evolve especially the extremely long vauxhall one that took all of a weekend

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Old 20-07-2008, 01:26 PM   #4
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Hi Atchi
I think it would be good to speak with Andy, I will still Turbo the other Swift but low boost & standard internals so could do with him sorting out my ECU. The AWD will have a properly sorted engine, I will find another GTI soon, hopefully at the right price
Have had no time to even look at the Justy this weekend, my son entered us for the local Scarecrow competition so guess who ended up making it all. Could not resist a bit of a car theme though





Hi Wayne
In theory with the right suspension setup the Justy can handle really well, the suspension is a compromise between comfort & performance. I love Minis they handle really well & great fun to drive hence I have 4 of them, however they are not the most comfortable. This project is about trying to do something different, it is my hobby. Some people play Golf in their spare time, I like cutting cars up
Only time will tell if this is a good conversion or not & indeed if I can actually do it
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Old 20-07-2008, 04:31 PM   #5
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Have spent the last hour measuring & it all looks quite good. The front is going to be tight on the front suspension, but possible. The rear looks easy their is loads of room, I am suprised how close a lot of the measurements actually are. One big problem though is the distance between the centre of the front & rear wheels, the Justy is 9.5 inches longer. Do I cut the Justy Floor or make the Van longer
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Old 20-07-2008, 04:32 PM   #6
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did you find out the van wheel base ? or are you comparing to your other minis ?

should be able to loose some wheel base problems in the rear panel of the van

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Old 20-07-2008, 05:30 PM   #7
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Hi Matt
I am comparing it to one of my other Minis, I thought that the van was about 6 inches longer than the standard minis. So you think it will fit
I cant get the van home until I have cut the top off the Justy & I cant do that until my Autotest has been sold
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Old 20-07-2008, 06:18 PM   #8
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if its 9.5 inchs longer wheel base that the other minis you have ,then the van is another 4 inchs longer , so that leaves 5.5 inchs to lose.

so you could move the rear wheels back in relatation to the vans by say 3 inchs , and the fronts would be 2.5 inchs further forward , with a clubman front / extended round nose i dont think it would notice.

or you could shorten the justy to suite .. just allot more work

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Old 20-07-2008, 06:59 PM   #9
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as well as having to shorten the prop shaft.
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Old 20-07-2008, 07:57 PM   #10
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Thanks Matt, it all sounds quite promising
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Old 22-07-2008, 08:37 AM   #11
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I would go with shortening the Justy.
Getting a prop shortened is no harder than getting custom drive shafts built (easier in fact) and taking 9" out of the rear floor should be no prob if you are confident enough to contemplate fitting the floor out of a Justy into a mini and will end up with it looking much more in proportion.

The justy powered mini that was in miniworld looked like the transfer box was poking out the grill, so a clubby nose or a slight stretch in the nose might be required.

A good project all the same though, looks like it'll be fun
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Old 22-07-2008, 03:54 PM   #12
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I'm not sure what the propshaft in the justy is like, but aren't most of them just a keyed pipe w/ slip-fit u-joints on the ends? But you could probably just cut the shaft bit to the proper length and slide the u-joint back in. Need to make straight cuts and balance it, but not really complicated...
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Old 22-07-2008, 05:55 PM   #13
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Hi Craig
I think the van you are talking about was based on a Fiat Diesel 4x4
The transfer box on the Justy is not at the front of the engine & due to the Bulkhead going straight down the engine bay will be much bigger than the Mini when I fit a Clubman front, their should be room to spare



Mrbell, I am sure you are right, I am going to block everything up & cut the top off when I can get free space in my garage. We will then support the van shell above the Justy floor to see if we can make it fit. If it wont then we will cut the floor as a last resort
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Old 27-07-2008, 03:53 PM   #14
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Stripped out the Justy over the weekend & started the cutting, I can find no rust at all on the car




Offered up the Mini door for an idea of size


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Old 27-07-2008, 09:36 PM   #15
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Hi,

I wish I have time to get on with my mini also.
I was away 2 weeks for business trip then last weekend, I had infection so in the bed most of the time.
This weekend, we had friends over for BBQ. Next weekend will be wedding ann.... Busy, busy.

Looking good by the way.
I thought you will be cutting away and fitting foors only to Mini van.
I don't know which will be easier !


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