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Old 01-09-2010, 03:10 PM   #1
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Default Mini City B18c Build [Picture Heavy!]

Having purchased a Mini City a while ago, I think itís time to start a thread.

I purchased the car off a member on another forum... Please check take a look at his thread first. ; Its defiantly worth a read as the previous owner has done some really good quality work on this car!


LINK!! LINK!!


When I bought the car...



The rot..








Interior










As my user name would suggest I plan on going the Vtec route with regards engine setup. I have spent many many hours on here and other forums researching various homemade subframes and have decided to fabricate my own to mount the engine.

For the rear I have decided to use a rear beam axle with offset coilovers using the original radius arms. I need to replace the complete rear arches and would prefer not to have to modify the new rear arches.

I am still undecided on wheel sizeÖ 10í 12í or 13ís ??

I like the look of 10ís but correct me if Iím wrong you are limited with regards brake setup? And there will be issues with final drive ratios..

Since getting the car some of the outstanding metal work has been finished off. The complete underside/bulkhead was taken back to the metal and was given two coats of anti rust primer. The weld joints were then seam sealed and thatís about where we are at the minuteÖ



























More images of the rot, taken when I got the car a few months ago












More to come shortly...




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Old 01-09-2010, 03:30 PM   #2
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When the underside was almost complete I made up a frame for the car to sit on..



Welding is getting better!

















More god dam filler!!





What do people think of this? Crafty workmanship! Covered with filler






Some new panels



Let the cutting begin.... (Will it ever end?)












Has anyone ever bought brand new arches and then slice them to pieces to tub the rear??











New boot floor...






Underside



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More to follow..
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Old 01-09-2010, 03:43 PM   #3
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So who is "Pixie"
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Old 01-09-2010, 03:44 PM   #4
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Default Another quick update


New arch tacked into place. Then I removed some metal..










New section tacked into place.








And that folks is where we are the the moment...

One arch semi-tubbed and the other is cut and ready to take some new metal...


As you can imagine there is a lot of work to be done on this car.. Progress is slow but I'm getting loads of help from the missus ...

I've owned the car for about 5 months.. Maybe in two years this will be a vtec beast? I will be making my old subframe to hold a B18C under the standard length round nose. I'm even considering a JRS! Will a car weighing approx 600kg with approx 200bhp need a JRS? It would be about 330bhp/tonne without the charger.. With the charger it should be near 400bhp/tonne!

The plan for the car;
I want to be able to use the car all year round, so it will need some creature comforts! some sound deadening and carpet! Maybe even a radio.. Weight is a priority so unless its necessary it will not go in the car.

Have many people on the forum weighted there converted Mini??
Just looking for some figures, Honda, Vax, Suzuki etc.. Cheers!

I have got a TDK rear beam to be fitted and a 6 point OMP cage. I hope to add extra bracing from the rear turrets to the cage in the rear passengers compartment, also somehow connect the cage to the front subframe.. It should give some extra rigidity.. Or maybe too much??

Questions and comments are welcome...

Would anyone in the area (Wilts, Berks, etc...) be willing to bring me for a short spin in there vtec mini???


Thanks for looking!
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Old 01-09-2010, 03:50 PM   #5
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Hahah well spotted!

It's the missus but don't tell anyone! She is helping loads with the conversion!!
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It will be a lot of work to get the weight down to 600kgs, I think thats about the weight of a race car. There is a lot of weight in the doors, glass, bootlid etc.. Rollcage is adding weight back, but v. sensible. Whatever weight it should be more than quick just with a VTEC. Go for it - maybe 2 years schedule could be reduced...
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It will be a lot of work to get the weight down to 600kgs, I think thats about the weight of a race car. There is a lot of weight in the doors, glass, bootlid etc.. Rollcage is adding weight back, but v. sensible. Whatever weight it should be more than quick just with a VTEC. Go for it - maybe 2 years schedule could be reduced...
Thanks for the reply..

I was planning CF bootlid & front end. Perspex for the windows apart from the windscreen (crap I need to look into that??).
I agree the doors are quite heavy and the FG doors are not really for everyday use..
Maybe I'm a little over optimistic?

I said 2 years because of funding/time to spend on the car etc... I have the car for about 5 months and you can see in the above post what has been done.. Not a lot!
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Old 01-09-2010, 04:21 PM   #8
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Thanks for the reply..

I was planning CF bootlid & front end. Perspex for the windows apart from the windscreen (crap I need to look into that??).
I agree the doors are quite heavy and the FG doors are not really for everyday use..
Maybe I'm a little over optimistic?

I said 2 years because of funding/time to spend on the car etc... I have the car for about 5 months and you can see in the above post what has been done.. Not a lot!
Seems to be going well. Just it's all about bodywork and getting the shell sorted on your build. I wouldn't worry about the weight right now. I bought a fibreglass bootlid, perspex and lightened doors, but have decided it's better to get the basic conversion done first, then those bits can be done later after it is up and running, mot'd etc. Your better off just aiming for standard mini weight, if your adding a cage.

I think the major challenge is designing and building your own subframe to get the engine and gearbox under a standard length front end.... it's all good fun though .. I think.
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Seems to be going well. Just it's all about bodywork and getting the shell sorted on your build. I wouldn't worry about the weight right now. I bought a fibreglass bootlid, perspex and lightened doors, but have decided it's better to get the basic conversion done first, then those bits can be done later after it is up and running, mot'd etc. Your better off just aiming for standard mini weight, if your adding a cage.

I think the major challenge is designing and building your own subframe to get the engine and gearbox under a standard length front end.... it's all good fun though .. I think.
Cheers for the helpful info. I suppose I should concentrate on what I have to complete first... Then worry about stuff like that later...
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Some real nice work there

I replaced my inner arches but 'tubbed' them first. Was really easy to do this way and meant no join all the way round.

See my build diary (page 1) and page 2 shows my woes with the fibreglass doors.

http://www.16vminiclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5249

Keep it up mate.


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Hello David,

Thanks for the reply. I did consider modifting the arches before I mounted them to the body, but I was concerned I would not be able to mount the modified arches in the correct location...

They are almost complete now But won't be posting for a while as I off on holidays for two weeks.

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I wish I had thought about arch placement a little more as I did weld the nearside one in a bit squint and had to hack it, bend it and weld it back

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Just a quick update.


I got a little bit more welding done on the rear arch!

As you can see the welding wire only came through once! All the welding was done form the inside. The metal was previously coated in zinc rich primer.



Welded some tabs on to the arch and held it tight to the body work with some bungee cords, then tacked the arch to the body.. I'm making good use of the free stickers which came with the Mini Mag





Thats all for now...
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Default Just another update

Been away for the past two weeks so progress on the car has been a little slow.

The good new is I have almost completed tubbing both rear arches!






Welded some scrap bits of metal onto the arch, this made it a lot easier to 'clamp' the arch to the body when welding.












Also, finally got the inner sill welded in place. Still have to tidy up the welds a bit with the grinder.








I have almost completed the body work, it's very time consuming work as many of you know...

Next step is to start fitting the cage. Need to weld some plates to the floor where the cage will sit, and also make a start on fitting the ream beam...

Thats about all for now.
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Spent some more time on the inner sills to tidy them up a bit..



Filled in the cut out for the exhaust in the rear valance..



RHS inner sill drilled for plug welding, primed, welded, ground back flush and primed again.



After drilling the holes for plug welding, I coated the sill in zinc rich primer...








Another image of the sill



Trying to keep the welding as neat as possible...





LHS inner sill





And finally two images of the boot area, it's looking an awful lot better in comparison to when I got it!





And old image..




That's all for now!
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