Toyota 20 Valve clubby

[Wolfhound]

Howzit guys, greetings from South Africa

i thought i'd better put some pics and a few words up on a clubby i'm helping a mate build into a track day car.

We drove for 8 hours to pick this up from another mate who lives in witbank (ar$e end of nowhere :lol: )

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We then drove about 10 hours back as we had to stop off in Johannesburg to pick up the subframe for the Toyota motor from the Mini Workshop (Tommy and Jenny). with a trailer that wanted to jack knife every time we went over 120kays an hour.

Once back at sea level we went through the car with a fine tooth comb - the body and subbies are in realy good nick, there is something to be said about a very mild winter with no ice - or salt on the roads.

1st up was the shopping list that we sent to my good mate Rich hawcroft at Mini Spares North in the UK - Top notch oke with a thourough knowledge of all things Mini.

i'll post pics of the goodies as soon as we get them cleared through our stoopid customs rigmaroll.

The motor has been fitted to the now painted subframe. the 5 speed box has been stripped and one selector fork changed and a new TRD limited slip added.

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g169/wolfhound68/Mini%20stuff/latestminipics.jpg.

New 8mm fuel pipes have been added and the tank modded to have the bigger outlet and the fuel return. you can see them on the right of the picture - thats my ugly mug staring out the window at u. as you can also see the brake master was re-conditioned and sleeved in 316 stainless steel for a much longer usuable life. the pipe going to the rear is brand new and a limiter valve is still to be installed. We are probably going to try a GM (Opel) rear limiter valve to start with.

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Thats about it until i get more photos.

Sean

[PoLonY]

looking great man, keep up the good work :wink:

one day, ill go this route...

[welshy]

Nice to see yet another Toyota. I wonder what the chances are of getting a Toyota specific build diary section?

Keep it up.

[Wolfhound]

The stuff we ordered from Mini Spares North is finally in our grubby little hands.

Our wonderful African government have now decided EVERYONE importing ANYTHING must now have an import licence - so it the stuff took 3 days to get here and 2 weeks to get through customs.

Anyway - we are getting cracking tonight with assemling the rear hubs and brakes and hopefully the front suspension 2.

will get some shots up tomorrow.

Sean

[pob]

Do we get this engine in the UK?
If so what car is it from?

[pantera2075]

They are available in the uk, though from Grey Imports only, they were never officially imported.

They were fitted to Toyota Levins and Truenos

Fensport will do you one for around £600

And then there's the GZE supercharged ones........

[Wolfhound]

Funny enough, they are jap imported motors here to.

The ones fitted to our locally Toyota Corolla RXIs didn't have the dizzy, they used coil packs.

So you can imagine the fun we had trying to get a new dizzy cap. ended up getting one from New Zealand.

Mate picked up the complete auto motor with the throttle bodies and a manual flywheel, 5 speed box and the Go-tech ecu for R10,000 - thats about 670 quid.

Sean

[PoLonY]

thats a flipping good price!!

how much do the locally made subby's go for?

[Wolfhound]

Subframes are R4500 unpainted or R5000 powder coated.

(300 to 340 Quid)

Sean

[pob]

It is significantly easier to bring a grey import into Rep Ireland than into the UK.
I had a look on some of the Irish trade publications.
They are still looking €6-7000 for 10 year old Levin.

[PoLonY]

Subframes are R4500 unpainted or R5000 powder coated.

(300 to 340 Quid)

Sean

thats much less than i thought it would be, hmmm, thanks man!

is this car in Durbs??would love to see it when its done!maybe bring it round to Doug's shop...

[pantera2075]

2 on ebay ATM £2.5k and £3k

As i've said, you can easily get engines for around the 600 quid mark.

[Wolfhound]

We did some work on it last night - What a pleasure working with brand new stuff. Thanks to the Guru @ Mini Spares North in the UK for the excellent service.

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Put on the new completely assembled rear back plates with the brake shoes and slave cylinders. New taper roller bearings and brand new S type drums.

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g169/wolfhound68/Mini%20stuff/DSC01850.jpg

Stripped the seized bearings out of the old font top arms and put in the brand new kit from Mini Spares North - again the joys of working with new schtuff :lol:

Mounted the rose jointed bottom arms and the newly refurbished top arms onto the Minota front subby :lol:

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Rebuilt the drum front hubs with new ball joint kit. - still have to put the bearings in.

I know what you are thinking drum brake front hubs??? WTF ????

Well disk braked Minis were a rarity in SA. Only the few original Cooper S's had them and about 4100 locally made GTS clubbies in the latte 70s had them.

So most people adapt VW Golof or Fiat Uno stuff to fit as they are common as hell out here and cheap.

AND for some strange reason, the locally made drum braked drive shafts seem to be able to take punishment - i know of an oke in JHB (Joel) who runs a turbo Toyota lump pushing almost 200 horses though the drum drive line and he aint broken it yet.

So on this clubby we will be putting Golof 3 260mm disks and calipers with the adaptors. they JUST fit under the 13" Racing Hart wheels.
You can see the 10.2" modded discs and gold calipers above.

Sean

[PoLonY]

We did some work on it last night - What a pleasure working with brand new stuff. Thanks to the Guru @ Mini Spares North in the UK for the excellent service.

Richard took quite a few shots, so I will hopefully get the pics up a bit later today.

Put on the new completely assembled rear back plates with the brake shoes and slave cylinders. New taper roller bearings and brand new S type drums.

Stripped the seized bearings out of the old font top arms and put in the brand new kit from Mini Spares North - again the joys of working with new schtuff :lol:

Mounted the rose jointed bottom arms and the newly refurbished top arms onto the Minota front subby :lol:

Rebuilt the drum front hubs with new ball joint kit. - still have to put the bearings in.

I know what you are thinking drum brake front hubs??? WTF ????

Well disk braked Minis were a rarity in SA. Only the few original Cooper S's had them and about 4100 locally made GTS clubbies in the latte 70s had them.

So most people adapt VW Golof or Fiat Uno stuff to fit as they are common as hell out here and cheap.

AND for some strange reason, the locally made drum braked drive shafts seem to be able to take punishment - i know of an oke in JHB (Joel) who runs a turbo Toyota lump pushing almost 200 horses though the drum drive line and he aint broken it yet.

So on this clubby we will be putting Golof 3 260mm disks and calipers with the adaptors. they JUST fit under the 13" Racing Hart wheels.

Sean

nice work there...

im one of the lucky ones to have the discs in the front :D

[Wolfhound]

New Cobra seat from ATS in johannesburg

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Rich made up the brackets himself.


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Thats either Rich or myself inside the Mini (both have the same haircut hahahaha), with our excellent spanner boy, Rich's nephew Calvin, looking on.

Sean

[Mr.Psycho]

Looking good! Im going to keep a close eye on this project hee hee if you dont mind, can you post picks of the adaptor plates for the calipers? I love the colour! Cant wait to see this thing go :D

[Mr.Psycho]

Sorry double post

[Wolfhound]

Howzit bru.

The adaptor plates are the shiney silver things next to the gold calipers in the picture above.

Very simple but work hundreds - then the spacer is actually bolted to the Golof disk - you can just see that to.

Sean

[Mr.Psycho]

:oops: sorry blonde moment! I couldnt see the calipers on the pic above, then i realized its the parts pic :oops: i zoomed in with my phone so i can see them now! Big thanks! Good luck! But i still dont see the turbo or supercharger in your parts picture :wink:

[Wolfhound]

hahahaa - nought bru, naturally aspirated track car. No hairdryer needed 8)

He has a 174kW (234bhp) 1994 Astra TS for that :lol:

[Mr.Psycho]

hahahaa - nought bru, naturally aspirated track car. No hairdryer needed 8)

He has a 174kW (234bhp) 1994 Astra TS for that :lol: hmmm okay i understand ha ha ha :lol: going to be real fun! Im sure the Ts would have a run for its money versus the mini hee hee

[Wolfhound]

Did a bit more work on the public holiday yesterday. again i'll wait til Rich E's me some photos......................

BUT

We have now got most of the front suspension assembled, new taper roller bearing have been pressed into the drum hubs, the ball joints all greased up and assembled, hubs are bolted onto the recondiotioned top arms and rose jointed bottom arms - the Mini Spares heavy duty tie bars are also fitted with the new rubber and poly bushes.

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g169/wolfhound68/Mini%20stuff/DSC01889.jpg
This is a pic of the Toyota engine subby unside down.

The calipers and disks have been trial fitted, and just needed longer bolts as the one that used to hold on the drums back plate were just to short and TBH the 8mm head on them didn't inspire any confidence.

This 1st pic clearly shows the +-20mm alloy spacer bolted to the Vw Golof 3 disk having it's 101.6mm PCD machined into it
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The brand spanking new rear drums have been painted, as has the petrol tank.

We should fit up the front subby maybe tommorrow eve with a bit of luck.

Rich was gona contact ATS today to get a set of 175/60 dunlop Semis as these are only +-R600 each compared to the nearly R1800 each for the 175/50 A048Rs from yoki.

Sean

[pantera2075]

Wolfhound: A quick question for you:

Which side of the engine is the starter motor on? Inlet or outlet?
If inlet, are the mounting lugs for it offset to the drive spigot? To explain, is the gear that drives the flywheel central between the two mounting lugs, or not?

[Wolfhound]

Hmmm i'll have to take a look, but if i remember correctly with the box we are using, we could mount the starter either side. but i'll chack and stick up a photo when i get a chance brother.

Sean

PS i added a few pics of the disk brake conversion.

[pantera2075]

That's what I thought - as the 'box has an "ear" on both sides - but in reality the starters are not interchangeable front to back - the mounting holes are at way differrent centres.

I'm told by the UK Mr2 club that the 20v has the starter on the rear of the box - but this isn't yet confirmed.

[Wolfhound]

I think they are right, i must admit the starter wasn't on the motor when we bought it, BUT the front mounting hole on the gearbox is covered with the block to gearbox mounting plate. So i asume it mounts on the rear of the motor. (inlet side)

Sean

[pantera2075]

That sounds sensible.

If you do need to swap the starter to the front, a Mk1 Mr2 starter will fit.

I've now got to find someone breaking a Levin in the UK. Oh dear!...

[Wolfhound]

If ya don't come right, perhaps we could help ya from here.

Toyotas are a dime a dozen here - the most popular car as it is made here is Durban.

Sean

[pantera2075]

Looking like no need!

I can get starters new here in the uk by the looks of it - and the same one is fitted to the 4afe engine in Carinas and Corollas.

Saturday morning date at the scrapyard methinks!

Cheers for the offer of help tho'.

[Wolfhound]

A few more pics up above.

Sean

[PoLonY]

im soo jealous :D

looking great :wink:

[Wolfhound]

Wll we got busy again this Tuesday night, the day before our holiday for electrions.

The tyres had arrived from ATS in Johannesburg, and Rich got them fitted to the 6x13" Racing Harts

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We managed to persuade the front subby to go in .......................

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only to discover when we connected up the steering arms on the hub to the rack that we couldn't adjust the toe, out came the measurng tape and low and behold the fekking rack was 10cm longer than the original Mini rack that came out of the car - so we had to strip it all out again.

Rich managed to get his money back and buy a proper Racck from our local Mini Spares guy - Doug Bebbington.

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g169/wolfhound68/Mini%20stuff/DSC01917.jpg

So everything went back on again yesterday whilst Rich was supposed to be doing real work :lol:

He put the wheels on with the 175/60 Semi slick Dunlops and adjusted the hi-los and dropped it onto the ground and pushed it outside for wash.

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Only thing missing is the engine......... and wiring loom............ and brakes........and one drivers side wheel arch spat :?

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[PoLonY]

[quote="Wolfhound"]http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g169/wolfhound68/Mini%20stuff/DSC01917.jpg

i this pic, the lower suspension arm bolt, is it only connected on one side???sorry if im being dumb, but the end is just sticking out, the frame has been cut there... :?does this not affect the suspension set up at all?

[Wolfhound]

The frame has been moded and has a new locating ring added to hold the inner of the the mounting arm - we just have to cut the extra off.

Good eye there though :lol: :lol:

[mininut]

Build is looking good.

You're using drum hubs? are the cv joints going to be up to the job as they are quite small?

M.

[Wolfhound]

We Initially thought the same, but there are so many of these Toyota conversions running around Jo'burg and nearly all of them running the drum hubs. maybe its the locally produced ones that are stronger, i don't know. There is even a guy running a turbo Toyota motor with the drum hubs.

Time will tell if it can take the semi slicks.....

[mininut]

sounds promising then, seen a few guys running them but not with anything over 130 ish lb/ft. see how it goes.

M.

[PoLonY]

The frame has been moded and has a new locating ring added to hold the inner of the the mounting arm - we just have to cut the extra off.

Good eye there though :lol: :lol:

ah ok cool, thanks for clearing that up :wink:

been tinkering with my mini's suspension so that area setup was fresh in my mind lol :lol:

keep up the good work :wink:

[Wolfhound]

Another uesday evening has come and gone.

We managed to get a new cam belt............from New Zealand as the local Toyota 20 volt motors use a belt that has one less tooth - most guys end up using an Opel (vauxy) belt but it is 1mm wider - so Rich thought it better to use the proper one.

Anyway we stuck it on and closed up the front of the motor.

Time to lift it in the air
(sorry - pics taken with my phone)

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A bit of tipping over and wham bam thank you mam, it was in.

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I mean it just looks like it was designed to fit there.

Now all Calvin had to do was squeeze his hands into all the tight places and do up the engine mounts.

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Now begins the tedious connection of all the ancilaries. (hey why aint there spell check here :lol: )

[PoLonY]

hey man im sure i know calvin, does he have a black polo by any chance??

[Wolfhound]

Yep he does - which is for sale as he is buying his uncles Astra TS.

[PoLonY]

ha ha i do know him then, hes mates with my girlfriend's brother Travis...small flipping world :wink:

[Wolfhound]

jha, and here we are chatting on a UK Mini website hahahahaha

[PoLonY]

ha ha :lol:

good work on the clubby tho, keep the updates coming :wink:

[Wolfhound]

Well now that all the chains are off the motor, Richard masked up the area so that he could paint the cam cover.

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Looks much better now, he has also taken the Toyota badge of the spark plug cover and just left the twin cam 20 logo.

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Sean

[Wolfhound]

No new pictures to add, its been the slow tedious stuff thats gotten done in the background.

Clutch mast is on, new power cable run front to rear, Oh and the VWobelyou Golof 1 radiator has been mounted.

Car is being trailered this week to get the front custom brake pipes made up and the new exhaust branch and system fitted, probably gona get the cage fitted same time.

Sean

[Schizzo]

Haha, ive been waiting for this update the whole time and it ends up as nothing i dont know yet,lol.Hurry up and get some vids of this beast

[Wolfhound]

:D

The worst bit of the whole build is that we had to start with basically a half rolling shell - no electrics, no interior so like i said, a truck load of extra graft went in and not much to show for it :twisted:

hopefuly more interesting bits n bobs in the next week or 2.

We did trailer the clubby to the annual cars in the Park in PMB where it was swamped with attention once the bonnnet was opened.

[Wolfhound]

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[PoLonY]

yip saw it there, looks sooo good in the flesh, can't believe how much space there is, especially seing how tight doug's KAD 16V is!

[Wolfhound]

looks like a lot of space, but the throttle bodies and filters still have to on, as does the branch and radiator and all the pipes and wiring so it gona start filling up hahahaha.

[PoLonY]

any updates on this??

[Wolfhound]

Hey howzit guys

Been a while.

Richard has been busy with a lot of small fiddly bits. the car made it to Cars in the Park in PMB where it had a lot of interest from the general public.

The Golof 1 1600cc radiator has been mounted, - heres Richard "trimming the front panel to get the rad to fit

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The front brake pipes have been made and connected, tonight we are adding an Opel (Vauxy) limiter valve to the rears and thus we are not putting in the std Mini pressure distribution valve thing-a-ma-bob.

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The main battery cable has been run as have the engine earths.

The Golof overflow bottle has been mounted and next to that will sit a bloody expensive MSD coil.

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Richard then used and old Mini engine steady that i had given him and mounted it to the head of the motor and made some brackets to bolt it to the bulk head.

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The dash is gona be a simple race affair, once filled with guages it will get painted in the traditional VHT crinkle black.

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So tonight the brakes and clutch get bled.

Sean

[Wolfhound]

Oh and the gear shift has been fitted.

[PoLonY]

nice work!

i also just fitted the golf rad in my 1275 mini, fits nicely, big improvement in cooling...

[OpelD]

Hey guys.

The mini is looking good!!!!!!!!!!

I thought there were not a lot of South Africans on this forum, but hey i was wrong.

I just started this weekend on building my own subframe for a opel 2l 8V.

You guys would be able to help me. I went to Jenny at Mini Workshop and they want to sell me a brake conversion to 13inch for just over R 2,000.00. I see you guys used golf brakes. How difficult is this to do. Did you also cut the standard mini sideshafts and connected them to the toyota shafts? What do you suggest I buy to make the brake setup like yours?

Sorry for all the questions. I Know it is your build so I just highjacked it. Oops.

Cheers guys.

[Wolfhound]

Howzit man

The golof stuff we used is similar to what Jenny and them use in Johannesburg, it aint a simple straight bolt on process, you have to get spacers machined up, so you need access to a lathe and then the plates to bolt the actual calipers on, either cut on a metal band saw if you have acess or get them laser cut, if Jenny supplies you everything for R2000, it is a cheap conversion when you consider the amount of work and machinery involved, no forgetting they have paid the school fees already in getting it all working fitting properly.

Shafts we are getting from Jenny - cheaper than we can get them made in KZN.

I had already bought a Opel 16v 2litre Big Boss motor to do my own clubman, but now that i have seen how easy the Mini Workshop Toyota conversion is, i have sold the Opel motor and bought one of Jenny/Tommy's frames. picking it up next week.


Sean

[OpelD]

Thanks

I suppose it makes sense. Will check with Jenny and them again.

Like you said, they have done all the work already so it is easier to do the toyota conversion. I however just swopped my engine in the 200is for a turbo engin and therefore have the engine lying around there.

There's also not a lot of opel driven minis in SA and think it would be great to get it right.

You also on the opelownersforum if I am not mistaken hey.

Thanks for the advice.

[Wolfhound]

Thanks

You also on the opelownersforum if I am not mistaken hey.

Thanks for the advice.

Yebo yes, thats me.

Sean

[Wolfhound]

We managed to get the throttles fitted last night, even with the 90 degree elbows from Jenny/Tommy at Mini workshop the throttles were STILL hitting the dual master cylinder.

A quick phone call to Tommy in JHB after hours confirmed that a bit of mods to No.1 throttle body was needed, but we also groud a small bit off the master cylinder and had to re-route our rear brake pipe and were unable to fit the Opel limiter valve in the front, looks like it's going onto the rear subframe instead.

Picture to follow.

Was also got the clutch all bled up, after sorting out a bloomin air leak in the flex pipe going to the master cylinder.

Sean

[Wolfhound]

Photos of the the motor with the throttle bodies fitted.

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Sean

[PoLonY]

yummy...oh the noise will be glorious!

[Wolfhound]

Rich has just spent a FORTUNE on brand new Auto Guage guages from Autostyle, well over 2 Gorllias worth.

the welded driveshafts arrived from the mini Workshop in JHB the other day and we assembled these with the new CV joints.

the 10" fan has been fitted to the Golof radiator and Rich will fit the drive shafts today.

It's off for exhaust and branch (R1800) and the motorsport SA aprroved cage on Tuesday next week.

Sean

[Wasp]

Hell ova build going on there.

Looks like you guys are making huge progress. I'm from PMB, just up the road man. I had 2 Mk3 1100 coopers (round eye), was going to marry into 1 and totally facelift interior and exterior. Unfortunately had to sell last year, WIFE! Anyways, was still busy with stripping them. Question, where do we get Hi-lo's and springs in SA? I'm prepping to buy another cooper, and want to go hole hog on this one, can i be a pain and get advice from you guys? Shot dude>

[Wolfhound]

Hell ova build going on there.

Looks like you guys are making huge progress. I'm from PMB, just up the road man. I had 2 Mk3 1100 coopers (round eye), was going to marry into 1 and totally facelift interior and exterior. Unfortunately had to sell last year, WIFE! Anyways, was still busy with stripping them. Question, where do we get Hi-lo's and springs in SA? I'm prepping to buy another cooper, and want to go hole hog on this one, can i be a pain and get advice from you guys? Shot dude>

Howzit man.

We (the Mini Owners Club of KZN) have a main member in PMB, Wayne Westwood - Call him at Egons Motor Spares - he is in the phone book - hellova nice guy, tell him Sean sent ya.

Oh and be carefull what your calling a Cooper - okes get a bit testy - FYI we never had Mk3 Cooper S's in SA - they wern't shipped in here in semi knocked down form or fully built up.

What you probably had was an SA spec 1100 Delux, (round front) which had our unique Big Bore 1100 unlike the small bore 1098 they had in the UK, our motors were very similar to the old 1071 Cooper S in their internal dimensions, with a short stroke crank used with a 1275 block to give the 1098 capacity.

Sorry for the useless info.

Oh and don;t forget its the track day at Hesketh race track on the 5th of September - a few Minis will be there, 3 at least with a Mini Sprint, a 1275 GT (Not a GTS) and a 20 Valve 1100 delux.

Ping me on my Email address and i'll add you to our Mini CLub address book.

sean(you know what goes here)pfk.co.za

[Wasp]

Hell Thanks.

Thought of the Mini Owners Club. Thanks for the warning, just shows you I need a lot more info. Sometimes a bit confusing on how to identify a rusted up old mini. Keep up the good work, hope to see more pics.

I know Egon well, seen some pics of a white mini in mid conversion there. If i had the same engines as you describe, i'm even more bummed they're gone. Cr@p.

Shot

[PoLonY]

pics pics pics pics pleeeease!!!

[Wasp]

Hey Sean,

Sorry to bug man, 2 things, how do i send you my mail address?

2. Can you help id this mini? i see it's a clubman shape, looks de-seamed in front and back? but anything else that might catch your eye? haven't seen it up front, just the pic. Don't want to make the trip for nought.

Thanks

Shaun

[PoLonY]

hey wasp, about that mini, be very careful of de-seamed minis that you personally didn't de-seam...you don't know what quality of work might be hiding under that paint and you don't want to fool around in those areas as the seams are important structural areas;)

just a friendly tip:D

[Wolfhound]

100% agreemnet with Polony there.

I'd rather buy a Mini that needed a respray than one that looked tooooooo good :-)

[Wolfhound]

Ok so the car headed off on a trailer to get its exhaust and cage fitted this past week.

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g169/wolfhound68/Mini%20stuff/DSC01947.jpg

The cage is proper CDS 2mm wall stuff, same as the local rally guys use.

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And so the car is now for the 1st time in it's build, back at Richards house in Assagai, all the noisy work has been completed, it time to figure out the wiring and get the car running, hopefully by the Mini club track day on the 24th of September (a public holiday here in SA.

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Sean

[PoLonY]

shes sooo purdy!!

love this car!!!!

[Mr.Psycho]

Man i saw this car in bits and pieces when she went was still up here in joburg, well done guys! Really well done she's starting to come together and she'll be a pleasure to drive im sure :D well done!

[Wolfhound]

Shot Michael.

Good to see you and the Ballie (Chuck Norris) up at Zawrtkops for the Mini 50th.

Sean

[Mr.Psycho]

It was great seeing you too, i actually said to my dad im sure its you but i couldnt remember thats why i kinda sneaked up and greated you hoping it was you :oops: hee hee oh one question are the drive shafts equal length? Thinking of torque steer problems for my build

[PoLonY]

It was great seeing you too, i actually said to my dad im sure its you but i couldnt remember thats why i kinda sneaked up and greated you hoping it was you :oops: hee hee oh one question are the drive shafts equal length? Thinking of torque steer problems for my build

equal length drive shafts doesn't mean no torque steer;)

its all in the suspension setup...

there are very few FWD cars out there with equal length shafts;)

[Wasp]

Glad to see more of the build coming...looking really smart. Question: Where did you get those flippin wheels from? They are sh!t hot. Really so impressed with how neat the cabbie is. Really motivational.

[Wolfhound]

Racing Hart brought a few of these sets into SA, but none avail at the moment.

Wern't to badly priced, R3100 a set was the recommended retail.

Came in Black, Gold and silver ...........all with the polished lip AND they are Mini fitment, no having to make a plan with adaptors to get Golof wheels to fit or having to pay R5000 for the imported Superlights.

Sean

[Wolfhound]

equal length drive shafts doesn't mean no torque steer;)

its all in the suspension setup...

there are very few FWD cars out there with equal length shafts;)

We are hoping that the Toyota's LS diff MIGHT help with the torque steer as the difference in drive shaft lengths is huge hahahahahaha, BUT the suspension is set up as dam near perfect (we think).

Fort for Rich has has his own portable Super Tracker lazer alignmnet machine.

Guess we will know in th next week or 2, i'm going up to his place on Saturday to try figure out the wiring ;)

Sean

[Wolfhound]

Oh and for you South African Mini guys, Richard has decided NOT to stick on the group 5 arches that he just imported, sticking with the std Mini Special arches you see in the pictures - anyone who is interested can E me on

sean(at)pfk.co.za

[Wolfhound]

Well................. we got it started on Saturday - bit ruff around the edges as the management has a very basic map in it.

was fun getting it going as we had manged to connect the fuel up to the wrong place and prompty fill up the sump and cylinder with petrol - once discovered we removed the spark plugs and swung the motor over, only to cover Rich and his mate Mike Chaplin with a shed load of petrol. hey at least we cleaned out the cylinders hahahahaha.

Sound wicked though. next up, Rich will tidy up the fuel piping in the engine bay then its off to get dyno tuned.

Sean

[Mr.Psycho]

Sweet! Now to see the power figures ha ha ha man this has been an awesome thread! Whats next? Oh and what all did you guys do to the suspension? Standard mini parts or adjustable lower arm etc?

[Dazzler]

Hey Hey Good looking build

Interesting to see you used the corrolla type box, when i did my 4AGE i mounted mine further back and used an MR2 box with the shifter at the front of the car

Do you have any pics of your exhuast manifold?

[Wolfhound]

AS far as the exhaust goes, yeh i'll get Rich to E me some pics so i can photobucket them. He got the maniffold and twin box stainless system made at a local exhaust shop (well one guy, who share premises with another guy who makes fibreglass GM Dart bodies) he did an awesome job.

for the suspension, the car has Mini Spares rose jointed bottom arms, Mini spares adjustable tie bars (rubbber mounted) KAD rear adjustable camber and toe brackets and adjustable GAZ shocks all round.

Once Rich has assessed the handling he might just have to make up a rear anti roll bar, but only a goood test session will make the decision for him.

Sean

[Wolfhound]

Right, here are some pics of the exhaust etc.

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Rich also tidied up the tempory wiring that i put in to get the motor running by putting fuses into the whole lot.

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Some more interior shots

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Sean

[Wolfhound]

I got this Email from Rich yesterday - i thought it may have been prudent to get the injectors cleaned, after all the motor had stood for nearly 2 years since originally bought from the Jap importer and goodness knows what history it had before.

I had the injectors cleaned: 2 are at 90% one at 88% and one at 84% so he is trying to get the lower one up closer to the others by cleaning it a few more times app they were so dirty one of the nozzles wasn't spraying, so good thing I had them checked!

If the 84% one doesn't improve he recons I should try get another one as it wont be balanced on all cylinders especially when it go's on the dyno.

Rich

[OpelD]

Hi Sean,

Regarding the wheel arches that will not be used anymore. I have tried to send an email to sean@pfk.co.za but the email does not want to go through.

What is the price that you are looking at for the wheel arches?

Thanks
George

[Dazzler]

cheers for the pics of the exhaust that does show how much further you have the engine than when i did mine, if you imagine having the standard manifold on the exhuast and still fitting in the clubby you will have an idea of where my engine was sat.

I will be fitting my next one further forward with a custom exhaust similar to yours. Are you still using the oil cooler?

[Wolfhound]

No oil cooler fitted man.

Oh and the Email address has changed.

Try seanb@pfk.co.za

Shot

[Wolfhound]

For the South African okes on here is our forum

http://www.atfreeforum.com/kznmini/index.php?mforum=kznmini

Sean

[Wolfhound]

Well

6 months after its purchase, the beast lives.

Richard actually drove the car this weekend, OK so it was only around the complex he lives in and the base map on the Gotech has some huge flat spots, but it runs and drives.

The clutch is dam hard as the ratio between the Mini master and the Toyota slave is all wrong, possible solution is to use a brake master and resleeve it smaller to give increased pressure.

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Richard is taking it to a mate of his that has his own dyno, Geoff at Tune Serve in Westmead this week.

Sean

[PoLonY]

jealousy makes you nasty, jealousy makes you...

sick man thats awesome must feel great!

[Wolfhound]

Bad news I'm afraid, the 20 valve ran a bearing on the Dyno.

But it's like Rich says, it's the ONLY unkown factor in the build, a 2nd hand jap import motor................

Time for a rebuild with bigger better insides, Rich is talking cams, head flowing, new pistons and possibly con rods too.

Sean

[PoLonY]

those motors are rather famous for doing that when having done highish mileage im afraid...

rebuild is the way forward:D

[Dazzler]

I found the clutch hard on my 4age, also it was very sharpe

[Wolfhound]

Motor is only coming out in the week between Christmas and New Years.

Fortunatley for Rich, through another member of the Mini Club, we got the number for the guy that buillds up the Toyota engines for the local rally teams - so he is getting the motor to put in some bigger cams etc - he tells us the std insides are good for over 8000 revs :-)

S

[Wolfhound]

Well, we pulled the motor today and then dropped the sump, imagine our surprise to find the sump FULL of what appeared to be grit.

However upon further examination (fark that sounds technical hahahahah) it looks like carbon, perhaps the motor had a blooming hard lfe, but Rich did say it had quite a bit of blow by on the dyno.

Anyway, Rich has already made contact with a guy from Toyota that builds motors for the local Toyota rally team and he is gona pull it all apart and start again.

Plan is to re-con the head, new camshafts and bump the comression to 11-1.

more news to follow.

Sean

[ricksherryjosh]

Wolf check your PM for messages plz Thanks for any help in the matter. Rick

[ricksherryjosh]

where did you get the spacer for the front disk bracks and did the lug pattern match the mini? Thanks

[Wolfhound]

where did you get the spacer for the front disk bracks and did the lug pattern match the mini? Thanks

Richard made the spacer himself as he has a lathe and a Milling machine.

The Golf has 4x100 holes and the Mini 4x101.65mm so Richard had to centralise the smaller Mini holes (with the bigger PCD) onto the bigger Golof holes (with the smaller PCD) so that the disk still centralises on the Mini studs.

Also replied to your PMs

Sean

[340i]

Well now that all the chains are off the motor, Richard masked up the area so that he could paint the cam cover.

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hey sweet car you've got here, well done. ive just found this thread and had to bring this up - how come you didnt just remove the valve cover? dont they only have a few bolts holding them on? also, they come up mint when polished, if you ever feel the need for some bling ;)

[Wolfhound]

hey sweet car you've got here, well done. ive just found this thread and had to bring this up - how come you didnt just remove the valve cover? dont they only have a few bolts holding them on? also, they come up mint when polished, if you ever feel the need for some bling ;)

hahahaha good question, as they say in Zulu........... Angazi...............

Which means "I don't know" why Rich did it that way.

Sean

[16vclubman]

Hi sean.
New to the forum. its a bit hard to tell from the pics but did you have to cut the inner guards to get the 20V and subby to fit? Have plans of doing this conversion to my Clubby Van.
Cheers
Craig

[Wolfhound]

The drivers side inner wall is cut almost all the way to the top, the car already had it's passenger one removed , but it only really needed it half removed.

The front panel was also extensivly cut away to clear the alternator.

Sean

[electric orange wagon]

hi who makes the Toyota subframe in South Africa? And do they also make front axles for the conversion?

[Wolfhound]

Tommy at Mini Workshop in Pomona in JHB make them and the new drive shafts as well.

082 252 7611

[OpelD]

Hi Sean,

Your mini looks awesome. Nice build and it gives someone like me a lot of inspiration.

Just a question. I also bought my brake setup from Tommy. I see you will be using the standard mini brake master cylinder. Will this be fine as I am also considering to use it, although my space is a little bit more constraint.

And then where did you manage to get your seat? All these seats available at Autostyle and the other places seems to be too big? Was considering to get 1 from England, but the import costs could have made me buy 2.

Cheers and good luck with the finishing touches.
George

[Wolfhound]

The seat is a proper FIA approved Cobra Monaco and is stocked by ATS in JHB. Rich intends to only use the car as a track toy and TBH, i'm running two of those Chinnese (Spelling??) reclining bucket seats in my Mini, comfortable but bloomin heavy and i'm not sure how they would hold up in a motorsport accident. - look good though :-)

Yup Mini brake master seems quite up to job, plenty of fluid in it for the big Golof brakes to. What motor are you running, I.E. your space constraints.

Sean

[OpelD]

Hi Sean,

I am still way behind from what I would have liked to do up until now. Basically my subframe is sorted and engine is in, but still need to do a lot of the small things. Engine is the opel 200is (2l 8v). The standard inlet maifold goes back quite a bit which does interfere with the master cylinder a bit, but this weekend i figured out, that if i trun the master cylinder the other way around having the bottle to the left, it gives me just enough space.

I see a lot of the guys on the forum here with vauxhaull engines uses master cylinders inside the car, and I am still new to this scene, so thought I will go with standar master cylinder which should be a lot quicker.

Had a look on ATS's website, seems they have quite a lot and it is close to home actually. Will have to go and have a look.

Thanks.

[Wolfhound]

Well Richard Finally got the Mini set up on the Dyno.

103kW at the wheels at 7500rpm, which in old terms is 139BHP @ the wheels, with 148nm of torque.

Sound wicked screaming at 7500.