In the planning stages......

To All,

I am considering a Vtec and I posted an inquirey on minimania. Today, Brownduck directed me to 16V for good info. & other options. Please accept that I am a novice. I am interested, like most are, in learning what power plant to use to get the most Bang for my buck. On the other hand, if there is a combo that drasticly out performs other options, I will likely go for that if the additional money is justified by the end results.

Another interest is to make my mini all wheel drive. Has it been done well by anyone yet? If so, where can I find useful info.?

Thanks All for any assistance or input you have.

WRC Wanna-be :?:

[Richspec]

Hope you don't mind me moving it here.. :D
I think VTEC is the answer for you, I'm guessing your American?? if so then the Honda would be the easier option due to engine and parts availability, for info on AWD then have a look at the ringmini site. www.ringmin.de or (something like that), I think he uses the Honda Shuttle transmission. I'm sure others more versed in ways of the VTEC will help you out.

Rich

All,

I am planning a 4wd B18 VTEC install in a Mini as well.. a problem for those in the US: The 4WD Honda Shuttle was never sold in the US, so any 4wd parts would need to come from Europe. You would need (at a minimum) the gearbox and the rear differential to complete the work.

Achim's site (the www.ringmini.de site) has about 60 photos of the 4wd pickup build.

-oAk-

[big pete]

you could try to use the old civic wagon 4wd

you could try to use the old civic wagon 4wd

That's a fair possibility - the Civic Wagon in the US shares many parts with the Shuttle in the UK...

Can a B16/B18 block fit onto a civic wagon transmission?

-oAk-

[blue68]

b series on shuttle won't work afaik

check out honda-tech.com do a search on "4wd" for more info...

Hi! My first time posting here. I too am an American contemplating a VTEC Mini.From what I saw of the 4wd Pickup on that site,he is using a D series engine, not a B series. However, there is a VTEC version of the D series engine available, I believe it is called the D16Z6 and was used in the USDM(US domestic market) Civic Si form 1992-95. The biggest downside to this engine is that it is SOHC and the VTEC controls only the intake valves, not both as it does in the B series. The only option I can see form a practical standpoint, would be having a adapter fabricated to mate the B series engine to the D series transmission.This is not impossible, but it is also not cheap. A good machine shop should be able to build it with a CNC lathe if you can design it or have it designed. There also may be a adapter commercially available, but I have never heard of it(That doesn't mean it does not exist either).You may want to try some Honda forums to see if there is a way to make such an adaptation. Remember also that a 4wd system will take more power to operate than a purely FWD car due to parasitic drivetrain losses associated with the rear drive system. There is one other option for a 4wd Honda drivetrain I just thought about. The CRV is powered by a K series engine and is available with 4wd.It is transverse mount and the transaxle could concievably support a K24 from the CRV ,the K series from the Acura RSX ,the K20C1 form the Civic Si or the K20C5 form the Acura RSX.

[strudel]

There is another D that you might want to look at unless you are strictly hoping to put a B into a Mini. The 86-89 Integras have a DOHC non VTEC engine. Depending on year it will be from 113 to 118 HP. The other option is to go to the JDM Integra ZC for 130 HP.

Then there is the DOHC ZC from the Civics that will work as well. I suspect the K series may be too big but only a guess. The steering is handled quite differently on that car. The exhaust is at the rear and intake in front but just looking under the hood of one of those makes me believe it may be too big but if you have the inclination and money then go for it.

[B20GT]

. The CRV is powered by a K series engine and is available with 4wd.It is transverse mount and the transaxle could concievably support a K24 from the CRV ,the K series from the Acura RSX ,the K20C1 form the Civic Si or the K20C5 form the Acura RSX.[/quote] Sorry to sound a bit kinda "I know it all :roll: " But the CRV is powered by a B20b, and all B series engines components are interchangeable with each B series engine :)

The V Tec head can be fitted to a B20b (As I have just done it) but the block and head need work. It is origonally a simple twinner (16v) but with the blocking of the Tec oil way, some dowel pin enlargement and drilling and tapping for Blowpast gasses it can be done, see www.b20vtec.com :D Enjoy

The sleeves are a weak point on the B20, so a 1.8LS motor is more adviseable, but the HP/torque gains over the B18c5 ITR are quite astounding, I'm after a frame at the moment to get the unit in my GT :(

Yeah, I forgot about the earlier CRV's using the B20! The article I was looking at when I wrote that was talking about the 2002 and newer CRV. So , we're both right! :P There's another interesting option I thought about that may be of some benefit.The B20A5 from the late 80's-early 90's Prelude 2.0si.It is unpopular with Honda people since it is tilted more towards the firewall than other B series engines.However, it may be easier to swap into a Mini or the intake manifold may be shorter and interchange to other B series engines. I dunno, it's just a thought, maybe it will help someone.