46's Very slow XE Build: Engine apart [Archive]

16-03-2008, 05:38 PM

Im finally getting around to putting a few of my pics up of my car.

My Car when i took it off the road:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/IMG_1300.jpg

Removing the knackered 998

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/PICT0030.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/PICT0034.jpg

Front end cut off

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/PICT00332.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/PICT0031-1.jpg

Rear subframe off (so i can fit a curly CF Boot floor)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/PICT0031-2.jpg

Today i got the remainder of the O/S front wing and a panel off, along with both the doors.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/IMG00029.jpg

As the interior stands

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/IMG00031.jpg

Ive been buying some parts over the last couple of weeks, so i can get on with the 16v side of things

6 Point Roll cage off jiminwatford
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/Cage.jpg

Watsons extended front
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/PICT0131.jpg

Also, bought some driveshafts and a gearlinkage off Aubrey_boy.

Hopefully should be able to place an order for my subfame on thursday. :D

Mike

jiminwatford

16-03-2008, 06:01 PM

are you going for an Allspeed frame?

16-03-2008, 06:08 PM

Yeah, i will be going with the allspeed frame. Then when ive ordered that i just need to find an engine

19-03-2008, 06:00 PM

Ordered my frame and bracebars from allspeed today. Should be done in around 5 weeks, so hopefully then, there will be more '16valveness' to the project :D

03-05-2008, 10:43 AM

Went up to allspeed today to collect my frame and brace bars, hopefully i should be able to get the frame trial fitted tomorrow.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/AllspeedFrame.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/AllspeedBrace.jpg

Mike

10-05-2008, 11:21 AM

Little more progress over the last few evenings:

Top suspension arms loosely fitted to frame.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/IMG_1479.jpg

Frame trial fitted
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/IMG_1480.jpg

Front end trial fitted on frame
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/IMG_1478.jpg

I also replaced the balljoints on one of the hubs and got that painted up, but have no pictures.

Hopefully will get the few bits i need at himley tomorrow. The i should be able to fit the top arms to the frame properly.

cooper_mark

15-06-2008, 12:11 PM

any more progress on your build.......?

15-06-2008, 08:00 PM

Afraid not alot of progress really, as lack of funds is holding me back at the moment.

I've rebuilt both of the mini hubs doing the balljoints on one and the balljoints and the wheel bearing on the other. After it had welded itself to the driveshaft.

08-07-2008, 09:47 PM

Managed to pick up myself an F18 box off ebay. Looks ok, but have to wait untill its running to find out if it work. Seems ok i suppose for £60.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/F18.jpg

Mike

cooper_mark

26-07-2008, 10:56 AM

any more on your build....??

27-07-2008, 05:50 PM

No not done much recently as i trying to raise funds to buy a daily driver, but hopefully this week i might be able to get my hands on an engine for the project.

I have spoken to someone about making me a custom loom for the project, and i believe hes in the process of making up a dummy loom for a test fit. i also got my new doors mounted, just need a couple of shims to get them lined up properly.

Jupitus

29-07-2008, 12:57 PM

02-08-2008, 07:31 PM

thanks for the reply jon, i look forward to progress, but not great rush at the moment.

I have made a little progress on the car however.

I cut the bulkhead out where the box needs to go. I now need to cut the hole in the box for the gear selector, then the box can be welded into place.

Hole cut:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/IMG_1555.jpg
Box trial fitted:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/IMG_1556.jpg

I hope to make a major step in progress early next week, so watch this space

04-08-2008, 10:13 PM

I went to collect the engine for the car this evening. Dont have any pictures at the moment, but it came with an f16 (which may be for sale shortly) and all of the ancillaries

Hopefully the project should start to move along alot faster now.

05-08-2008, 10:03 PM

I didnt get as much done as i wanted to tonight but i removed the f16 box that came with the engine and fitted my f18 box and fitted the engine mount brackets.

F16 Removed
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/f16.jpg

F18 Fitted
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/f18fitted.jpg

Only thing i was unsure of was mounting the gear linkage onto the allspeed bracket. How do i go about removing the pin from the original bracket to fit it onto the allspeed one?

Mike

cooper_mark

05-08-2008, 11:13 PM

read this thread....think its what u are asking
http://www.16vminiclub.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5509&highlight=selector

06-08-2008, 08:57 PM

Thanks for that mark, my gear linkage was a bit different to that, so i had to drill the pin out, as it was a little to short for the allspeed bracket for some reason,

Got the engine trial fitted in the subframe this evening. Only have 1mm of clearance from the suspension pivot shaft to the gearbox So im going to have to pull the engine back out again and replace the trust washer on the pivot shaft for a thinner one.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/C20XESubframe.jpg

10-08-2008, 03:30 PM

Did a little bit more today, modified the oil fiter housing and the plug, so i now clears the suspension top arm.

Got the engine properly mounted in the frame and got the frame mounted to the car:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/Framefited.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/Frame2.jpg

25-11-2008, 03:30 PM

I made a little more progress on this now.

I went and picked this up from Mininut a couple of weeks ago, so i could start to mockup where i wanted to mount the radiator.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/IMG_1677.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/IMG_1679.jpg

Plenty of room to the front crossmember but im looking for a different sump, as it ever so slighty touches the one fitted at the moment.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/IMG_1680.jpg

Had a go at making some radiator mounting points up today, im happy with the idea and where it sits. Just need to wait untill ive got my new front end untill i can weld them to the frame.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/IMG_1686.jpg

All opinions welcome of positioning of the rad, good or bad. Just want some feedback on it :)

Mike

DarrenW

25-11-2008, 03:53 PM

Starting to take shape :D

Must be great to locate the radiator so much in the airflow, looking good :D

mininut

25-11-2008, 04:04 PM

Looks alright, just be mindful of the headlamp bowl else you'll have to do some modding there.

M.

Nice manifold by the way :wink:

25-11-2008, 04:11 PM

Yeah im really pleased with how much of it sits in grille aperture. I think there might be about 2" at the top where the bonnet will cover it, but i can live with that.

I forgot to check where its sits with the headlight, il put the other front on tomorrow to see if it clears the headlight bowl if not il move it over a little when i mount it properly.

Thanks

cooper_mark

11-12-2008, 02:24 PM

hi mike whats rad is that your using....?

11-12-2008, 07:05 PM

its a 16v corsa rad mark.

cooper_mark

11-12-2008, 07:07 PM

thats a lot thinner the the standard xe 1 isn't it..??

11-12-2008, 07:08 PM

I wouldnt be able to tell you mate, as ive never seen one off an XE close up.

If it recall right ,mine is about 50mm.

cooper_mark

11-12-2008, 07:22 PM

k thnx mike
your build comming together now.. :wink: keep up the good work

11-12-2008, 07:24 PM

thanks, hopefully the engine will be coming out at the weekend so i can get the bodywork done and do some little bits on the engine.

cooper_mark

11-12-2008, 08:44 PM

ive pickedup 3 rads c2.0xe,fiat punto and also kept my mpi rad+fan
might sell the lot and get a corsa 16v

11-12-2008, 09:12 PM

Yeah, if you look at the picture where the rad is on my car.You can see that the pipe lines up with the thermostat on the head. It seems a pretty good fit on mine.

cooper_mark

11-12-2008, 10:03 PM

arhh see what u mean...did u test fit the front...as mininut says about the headlight bowl...does it clear....?

11-12-2008, 10:05 PM

Something i forgot to do before i sold the frontend :(

cooper_mark

11-12-2008, 10:17 PM

o owww...best try get some measurements..before fixing properly

11-12-2008, 10:18 PM

yeah, il fit the new front up before i weld the rad mounts in place.

cooper_mark

11-12-2008, 10:21 PM

it's like me need to got my finger out and get something done....4 weeks since i have done anything.. :oops: :oops: :oops: :?

11-12-2008, 10:22 PM

at least you made your frame, i bought one ready made. Ive done none of the work. lol.

cooper_mark

11-12-2008, 10:31 PM

yeh but that was a nightmare...never again...if i had the money i would have brought a frame...LOL...not as easy as it looks... :shock:

cooper_mark

11-12-2008, 10:42 PM

so what u doing about your pedal-box.........?

11-12-2008, 10:45 PM

i'l be using a wilwood pedalbox with a hydraulic clutch as im using an f18 box with a hydro clutch in it.

cooper_mark

11-12-2008, 10:47 PM

i'm a cheap skate and will be making my own.. :wink:

11-12-2008, 10:50 PM

are you sticking with the vauxhall cable clutch?

cooper_mark

11-12-2008, 10:51 PM

for now yes
there must be away of fitting a hyro ram some where to operate the arm tho

11-12-2008, 10:59 PM

there seems to be a few people that have made their own. so you should have some pictures to work from at least.

cooper_mark

11-12-2008, 11:04 PM

just been looking at what pooler70 setup up is like..not sure what box he's using looks a nice setup

27-12-2008, 01:17 PM

A little more progress with this.

Ive removed the engine from the car and mounted it up on an engine stand so i can repaint it and replace some bits before i get it running in the new year.

So far ive stripped the rear side of the engine back to metal and repainted it:

You can see a little of the original colour here.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/DSC_0038.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/DSC_0043.jpg

Cam Cover off so i could take the cam pulleys off.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/DSC_0040.jpg

Just painted and now im waiting for it to dry
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/DSC_0046.jpg

List of things i plan on replacing:

Cambelt and tensioners
Oil Pump
Water Pump
Sump and gasket (for a steel pan)

I was also going to check the big end shells an d maybe change to ARP rod bolts. Are the bolts a worthwhile change, in a standard engine?

Anything else i should check/change while im doing those jobs?

*franky*

09-01-2009, 06:11 PM

any more progress mate engine is lookin good. Is it back in the car yet?

09-01-2009, 06:16 PM

Not back in the car yet as im low on funds (again) for a couple of engine bits). Ive also got to finish making up the inlet, but ive got all of the loom sorted now. So i should be able to get it running around feb time.

S_Davis

10-01-2009, 04:26 PM

Hi 46,

Looking good, I have been following your build

Are you using the Allspeed driveshafts?

Also I think you swapped to an F18 gearbox from an F16, what's the difference, or was the F18WR and the F16CR?

Ta

10-01-2009, 05:09 PM

Yeah I will be using the allspeed driveshafts and CVs. Im lazy and it saves me the effort of getting shafts welded. Also Id rather have a custom made shaft than a cut and shut set.

Yeah it is an f18 box. It was out of a vectra diesel I believe. The reason I changed was it has the hydraulic clutch as opposed to the normal cable type on the f16.

You can change the f16 to hydraulic but I thought I was getting an f20 and not the f16.

Mike

cooper_mark

16-01-2009, 11:29 PM

its a 16v corsa rad mark.
where did u get the rad from......???
also how much did u get it for.......?

XEValver

16-01-2009, 11:37 PM

i think the rad is same right across the corsa B range, or at least the petrol variants, mine is the same, from a p-reg 1.2 8v if i remember rightly, and it was £10 from a scrappy (but it looks like it too! i'll be getting a new one off ebay once funds allow, just to make it look a bit smarter!)

22-01-2009, 10:23 PM

Sorry for the delay i response, ive been away on holiday.

The rad cost me something like £35 new off ebay.

Mike

cooper_mark

23-01-2009, 09:05 AM

thnx mike... :wink: got me a metro rad (ebay)..so now i have 4 rads. to try.. :shock: so i can see which 1 will be better... :lol:

cooper_mark

13-02-2009, 10:01 PM

any more progress mike.......?

22-02-2009, 11:29 AM

Not much progress really, as ive had to spend alot of my money recently on bits for my mx5.

Ive just bought the oil pump for the engine though, and im halfway through making my manifold, im just waiting for the right size tube to come.

Also, my rear turrets arrived from markd, which im really pleased with. I think it will be a while yet before i fit them though :(

Mike

boydy

26-02-2009, 09:36 PM

hi mate i was looking at your redtop mini, and was just wondering if you would consider doing one for me as i like the idea of this but am not the most technically minded of people so it would be easier for me to get someone to do the work for me and pay them as required. please could you get back to me with a quote if you do.
regards,
rob.

02-03-2009, 05:52 PM

Rob, i may not be the best to ask for help to build a car, as ive been working on mine for 2 years and ive still only got this far. I like to work slooow.

its been a long time since i got off my arse and did anything on this.

Not much of an update, but things will start to move forward hopefully.

Ive removed the clutch and fly wheel from the engine. Now i can get onto inspecting the internals to see if anything needs to be replaced.

Ive not got a new oil pump to fit also a full top and bottom end gasket and seal kit from SBD.

List of things still needed for the engine.

Water pump
ARP Rod bolts
Steel sump
Themostat
Cambelt
Possibly new main and big end bearings
Something for fueling and ignition, probably carbs and a dizzy or megajolt Not sure on the best option for the ignition yet.

Any opinions on megajolt over a H&H ignition kit. For use with r1 carbs?

08-03-2009, 06:03 PM

Went out and did some work on the engine for a couple of hours. Not really pleased with my finding.

First of all, took the sump and all the bearing caps off, to see if eveything was ok, and found this: :cry:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/XE%20Rebuild/DSC_0425.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/XE%20Rebuild/DSC_0426.jpg

Il be having the crank reground and replacing all of the bearings obviously. So i took the crank out.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/XE%20Rebuild/DSC_0427.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/XE%20Rebuild/DSC_0428.jpg

So then i took the head off to see what condition the bores were in, again not great news:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/XE%20Rebuild/DSC_0429.jpg

Scores on the bore.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/XE%20Rebuild/DSC_0430.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/XE%20Rebuild/DSC_0431.jpg

So now to add the the list of things to buy, i need a new set of pistons, a rebore and a crank regrind.

tinxy

08-03-2009, 06:12 PM

tbh mate id proberly just look for another engine as that crank score looks deep and a rebore and pistons will sey you back dollar

having said that revamping that engine eould garentee you with a decent one as another engine mite be just as bad

08-03-2009, 06:15 PM

Well, i was thinking of another engine, then i thought that id still be getting an unknown quantity, just like this one was. If i was to get it done, i'd know it was done right.

Just to note, thats not a score on the crank, that was the bearing shell before i removed it from the crank.

The crank doesnt look to bad considering what state the shell was in.

tinxy

08-03-2009, 07:05 PM

08-03-2009, 07:28 PM

if thats the back of a shell it must have spun a shell from getting to hot from broken down oil or lack of it

yes my freind went true the same issue with a xe in his corsa blew one up bought another thats seized very quickly and his current one has worn rings and smokes like a strawberry lol

Well, i was told it had done 104k, how true that was i dont know. Either way, i knew it could have done with a refresh anway so i'd accounted for it in the build cost.

Gives me chance to make a few mods along the way too :)

domtune

08-03-2009, 09:46 PM

if the crank has no bad marks in it mic it up if is measures up ok no probs check the con rod ,block i would strip clean it clean the bores with some wire wool or scotch pad to remove the rust it may not be so bad also clean the rings and pistons you will find marks on old engines unless your going for massive power or going to cain it all the time it may be ok .check the oil pick up is not full of debris also check the pump. hope its ok

08-03-2009, 09:56 PM

You cant really see it from the pictures, but no3 has pretty bad scoring marks, i dont think honing would get them out. I dont really mind the cost of the rebore and pistons, as i know it should be good for a while. Id like to up the power a little too.

Admittedly i haven't measured the crank yet, but when i took the big end shells off they seemed to be misshaped. Whether the cause of this is the crank, i'm not sure yet, i'l mic it up tomorrow night to see whats what.

Muffyvaux

09-03-2009, 12:54 PM

is this caused by lack of oil changes?
if you going for a rebore you could go for a 2.1 xe

09-03-2009, 08:05 PM

Yeah, i had been looking at different sizes, not sure on what to go for. It depends on the price difference of pistons and performance increase i suppose.

Im hoping to get the block and the crank to a machine shop within the next couple of weeks so i can start getting it back together asap.

Does anyone know of any recommended machine shops near/in the midlands?

Mike

Muffyvaux

09-03-2009, 09:48 PM

You can get over sized standard pistons with deeper cut outs so you can run wilder cams from autosprint. £250 for pistons pins and rings sound good deal to me!

http://www.autosprint.co.uk/?p=p_52

09-03-2009, 09:52 PM

Thanks for the link, definately worth considering. Im not going for a wild spec. So i would think standard, flat top pistons should be able to cope with the power i want to achieve.

10-03-2009, 07:58 PM

Measured the crank this evening and the journal that had the knackered shell on it measured 4 thou down on standard, all of the rest seemed to be within 1-2 thou. Almost all of the journals had a score of some sort on them though, so im hoping i can get away with a .25 regrind.

The next thing i need to do is refit all of the bearing caps and see if any of them have been damaged/bent. If they have il have to look for a replacement block.

cooper_mark

04-07-2009, 01:16 PM

hi mike any more luck with your engine

08-07-2009, 08:08 PM

mark, no update as of yet. I havent done anything on the car for months due to working on my other car. However im back and i sent an email about dropping the engine off for the work to be done very soon.

Hopefully things will start to move along a bit.

Mike

garyshoose

08-07-2009, 08:45 PM

I dont get it. Why are you building a very slow XE... You should've just put one of those rover sewing machines in there :rolleyes:

08-07-2009, 08:58 PM

Well the plan was to give the rovers a chance before i get the engine running.

Thats why the build is taking so long :lol:

cooper_mark

08-07-2009, 09:17 PM

09-07-2009, 08:54 PM

Tonight i stripped the engine down as im taking it to have the rebore and regrind on saturday.

Head off
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/DSC_0018-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/DSC_0019-1.jpg

Pistons out
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/DSC_0021-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/DSC_0022-1.jpg

I was thinking of taking it all the way out to 88mm to make it a 2.1. Would there be any disadvantages to this?

Mike

caveman

09-07-2009, 10:46 PM

hi mike my engine is preety much the same shape and am pretty peaved because i had 2 and sold the good one and kept the dud one,have spoke to couple of the corsa lads round my way and get the impression th 80 mm route is quite expensive but not a bad bhp gainthough,supoose it,s the same as evrything boils down to personal preference

p.s sorry if this sounds a bit tex like but my laptop is broke so im onthe ps3

09-07-2009, 10:56 PM

I did have a look at the price of 88mm omegas on the SBD website and the 88 is no more expensive than any other size omega from what i can see.

I wasnt really too concerned about the price, i just wanted to make sure it would be reliable enough if i decided to use it everyday.

Mike

20-07-2009, 09:09 PM

I ordered my 88mm Omegas today which are on backorder so i should get them in august.

List of things i need to complete the bottom end rebuild:

Cometic head gasket
Arp rod bolts
Arp Flywheel bolts
I was also thinkining of switching to Arp head studs instead of bolts, but im not sure on this yet? Would there be any disadvantages to it?

When ive done the botom end i plan on stipping cleaning and rebuilding the head to make sure its perfect.

Mike

caveman

20-07-2009, 09:23 PM

sorry dave meant 88mm not 80mm.thats gonna be a tidy engine what bhp u looking for.

20-07-2009, 09:36 PM

I was aiming for around 190-200bhp runnning bike carbs and a dizzy. I think i'l need more than the pistons to make that power though.

Im just looking into what i need to make the power now.

caveman

20-07-2009, 10:03 PM

i,m gonna be running twin 40,s and looking for a bout 180-190 gonna be going down the arp route, defo think the head bolts are worth doing espacially if you are gonna be playing with the cams. a few people i have spoke to have done the rest of the engine and left the head and then had troubles with there head. but i supose it,s personal preference and down to your budget.

if u come across any good sites keep us in the loop mate cheers adam ;):)

26-08-2009, 09:43 PM

Right, i finally got on with something on this.

Today these came which i bought off ebay:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/Picture2.png
GSXR 750 Throttle bodies

As you can see in that picture theyve got secondary throttle valves which, i dont need. So i decided to take the tbs apart and remove them.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/DSC_0021-2.jpg
Split into pairs.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/DSC_0020.jpg
Butterflies and spindle removed.

I then split them up seperately so i could start spacing them for the XE manifold.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/DSC_0022-2.jpg

Then i lined them up with the manifold ive made and secured them in place.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/DSC_0023.jpg

Theyre only together temporary as i need to clean them, get a few more fixings on and fix on some throttle extensions, but im pleased with the result so far.

On another note, after ordering them in mid july, im told my 88mm Omegas should arrive tomorrow. :D

Mike

28-08-2009, 09:44 PM

My pistons arrived from SBD, so when i get back from germany, i can start the rebuild of the engine.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/DSC_0022-3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/DSC_0023-1.jpg

27-09-2009, 06:19 PM

So a i had a little change of plan with what to do next on the car. I didnt want a fully built up engine sitting there for months, waiting for the shell to be completed. So i decided to make a start on the suspension/boot area.

On monday i collected a rear beam from Dave at TDK.

Today i fitted the beam, it took me about 4 hours in total. A little longer than i expected, but i spent a while making sure it was millmetre perfect. I got it to within 0.5mm which i was pretty pleased with.

Holes drilled in the frame

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/DSC_0077.jpg

Dave only supplied 2 small spreader plates (2.5"x3") with the frame which i didnt think were enough, or big enough. As it would only have allowed me to mount 2 bolts in each end.

So i made 4 more plates. Eventually using 12 bolts to mount the frame in 6 places along the heelboard. The pictures arent that great, but it gives you the idea :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/DSC_0079.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/DSC_0078.jpg

On another small note, decided to go in a different direction with the doors. The doors ive got are far too good to do it too. So ive got some perfect condition mpi doors, including all fittings and glass for sale. Im also on the lookout for a Drivers side door, with a perfect frame, not too concerned by the condition of the skin.

Mike

cooper_mark

27-09-2009, 06:28 PM

hi mike good to hear your still ploding away at it.....;)
so how the engine now...? have u started to rebuild it yet......?

27-09-2009, 06:32 PM

hi mike good to hear your still ploding away at it.....;)
so how the engine now...? have u started to rebuild it yet......?

Yeah, still going at it, just money holding me back really.

The engine is stripped ready for its rebuild. All i need is shells and bolts before it can be rebored but i didnt want to take it any further than that as the shell is nowhere near ready.

Also nearly finished the GSXR throttle bodies, i have smoothed out the inlet stubs and extended the throttle levers aswell as cutting the silicone hoses to size. Just need to fill the unneeded holes in the tbs now.

Aubrey_Boy

27-09-2009, 06:58 PM

27-09-2009, 07:14 PM

Looking good Mike,

88.0mm Omega's! I bet they were cheap (Not!) Is the crown of the piston 'proud' and reduces the combustion chamber volume (higher CR?) 'Intruder'? Or is just the angle of the photo

What is the situation with head gaskets and a 88.0mm bore? Does the OEM HG fit OK? It must be tight?

I can recommend Rob Walker Engineering (Chipping Norton) for the rebore, its a bit of a trek but for piece of mind it's worth it. Quite a few of they guys at work use him.

I decided the same as you as I didn't want an engine sitting around for months, plus I use the block / head for lots of mock up trials as it is not too heavy.

Cheers

H mate,Thanks. How is your car coming on?

Yeah, they definately werent cheap, i think i paid £480 including VAT and postage. I am really pleased with them though, they look to be amazing quality.

I think the pistons do increase the CR yes, but im not sure exactly what to.

88.0mm wont fit with a standard head gasket. I will need to run a cometic gasket, but the spec of the engine i was going for i was planning on this anyway.

Im not really sure what power to expect from it now. As i was also planning on changing the cams to make the most of the pistons. To be perfectly honest i think i would be pretty dissapointed with anything under 200bhp. I may have to start looking at different injector options, as i think the standard creams will run out of steam if the power is much higher.

Does anyone know what power they are good for within their limits?

Aubrey_Boy

27-09-2009, 07:32 PM

Slowly... Is the honest way to describe it, I've been travelling quite a bit lately but I am also putting an XE in my MG Midget (Contrary to the 'norm' as most fit 'K' series) so time is split between the two at the moment.

The Midget is simpler as it is already RWD but has turned into an ECU / Data logging odyssey which I will use on the Mini as well.

This is it: (It was supposed to be a cheaper and quicker project than the Mini but things never seem to work out that way do they!)

http://www.turbosport.co.uk/showthread.php?t=143716

I'll have to pop over and see yours in the flesh one day

Cheers

27-09-2009, 07:42 PM

Yeah, definately theres not much to see at the minute. I hope to make a start on the shell stregthening on boot/rear end replacement soon though.

Thanks for the link, it looks really interesting. Il be keeping a track of it.

Add_Gee

28-09-2009, 01:24 PM

28-09-2009, 07:07 PM

Hi, nice build. You must only be a couple of miles from me, im in Great Barr.

Concerning the arps you mentioned earlier in your diary... I have built a couple of LET's and an XE and can deff recommend the headstud kit, much easier to torque down correctly and has the benefit of being able to reuse them if you ever need to take the head off.

As for the arp big end / mains bolts it all about revs, if you are sticking to standard rev limit then standard bolts are proven to be fine. Over 7-7.5k rpms then you might want to think about arps.

HTH (if you haven't bought them already) :-)

Yeah, not too far from you at all.

I haven't bought any of the bolts yet. I was definately planning on the headstud kit and probably the rod bolts.

I was unsure of the mains kit though. To be honest im not sure what it will rev to. I wasn't really planning that much over standard. Maybe 8k at the most. I was really thinking of just keeping it within the capabilities of the rods.

Mike

mininut

28-09-2009, 07:18 PM

Maybe 8k at the most.

not much point on standard cams ;) you'll just be revving for the sake of it and not making any power.

28-09-2009, 07:23 PM

Im not sure on what im going to do with the cams yet. I may fit some different ones when ive got the engine running and im bored of the power.

For the price of the rod bolts, i think i will go for them just incase i do decide to uprate the cams.

11-10-2009, 10:55 AM

I finished filling the holes in my GSXR TBs duing the week and mounted them all up on the manifold. Im quite pleased with the results.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/DSC_0012_2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/DSC_0013.jpg

28-10-2009, 07:02 PM

I ordered the rear shocks so i can get the rear turrets in the right place and fitted to the car. I decided to go for AVO lowered

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/DSC_0014-2.jpg

When i tried to fit the springs though i found a small problem.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/DSC_0016.jpg

The flange at the top of the shock did not locate in the recess in the top collar.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/DSC_0015.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/DSC_0014-1.jpg

I phoned AVO and they basically said, just grind them down untill they fit. :xxx: Wasnt really pleased with the quality of the response, but anyway.

Much better

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/kirkzorlac/DSC_0016-1.jpg