Mini Van - Suzuki Swift GTI With Turbo

[Allan McD]

I have decided to fit a Suzuki Swift GTI in to my Turbo Van I will fit a turbo but I want to get it on the road first.
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I started this morning and hope to have it on the road in a couple of weeks.
Allan

[DarrenW]

I started this morning and hope to have it on the road in a couple of weeks.

:shock: :shock: Yeek!

Are you making up your own subframe on this mini?

[ed4ran]

Cool!! :D
I guess your buying the frame, because of t'other thread.

[Allan McD]

Im going to make my own as delivery is 4 weeks and I want it on the road before that.
Allan

[ed4ran]

I guess you havent got much body work to do?
or are you going to pull a single handed Overhaulin? :lol:

[Allan McD]

The body work is ok just needs a new front end as I cut the old one off :cry:
The front was the only bit that wasnt replaced when I built it two years ago so it gives me an excuse to replace it.
Allan

[Allan McD]

In the last 24 hours my mind has changed so often I have a head ache.
The final decision is an allspeed frame and a turbo.
I have been promised the frame next week so it gives me time to sort out the turbo which I am fitting in the rear subframe.
Allan

[ed4ran]

:shock: Fitting in the rear subframe!!!
will be very interested to find out how well that works!!

[Allan McD]

I managed to get a bit of flexible exhaust pipe that fits a treat.
Most of tonight has been taken up removing the towbar but things are looking good 8)
The turbo isnt fixed properly as time ran out one needs a we drink :twisted:
http://www.16vminiclub.com/gallery/albums/userpics/turboinrear.JPG

[Allan McD]

Its coming on I got the oil feed pipe fitted and the exhaust near made I am using a titanium motorbike silincer but I have had to shorten it a bit.
pics to follow when there is somthing to see.
Allan

[Allan McD]

I got a bit more welding done to the exhaust it still neds a bit of tweaking and some proper mounts made for the turbo.
I should get it (turbo / exhaust) finnished this weekend the subframe is ment to come mid week.
Allab
http://www.16vminiclub.com/gallery/albums/userpics/exhaust%7E0.JPG

[miniswift]

Hi Allan,

Nice set-up, but is tail pipe not too short?
I think exhuast fume will kind of stay behind your van doors due to low pressure when you are driving?

Also, are you still looking for mk1 gearbox?
I think I might find yet another one... complete car.

Let me know if you are interested.

Cheers
Atchi

[Allan McD]

The tail pipe isnt finished the can needs re riveting as I striped it and shortened it .
Allan

[Allan McD]

Update
I have the exhaust finished and the turbo mounted properly(No cable tyes).AlsoI have the petrol tank finished I have fitted the Suzuki fuel pump and sender to the mini van tank and the fuel hoses are all in place.
My subframe is in the post so things are looking good.
Allan

[ed4ran]

Have you worked out how your going to run the air pipes to and from the turbo? (next to the exhaust?? :shock: )

[Allan McD]

The exhaust is one of the pipes, the other I plan to run inside but I have changed my mined before so time will tell.
Allan

[Allan McD]

I have just had my (16 valve mini shop Allspeed ) subframe delivered it looks ace. 8)
http://www.16vminiclub.com/gallery/albums/userpics/subframe-in.JPG
Allan
Ps I have had to make an engine mount (front nearside)as the frame is for Mk1 Mk2 mine is a Mk3

[Allan McD]

I got the lower suspension bars in and a smaller oil filter from a yamaha motorbike fitted,as I needed to fit a sandwich Plate to give me an outlet for the oil supply to the turbo and some where to put an oil pressure swich used to turn on my oil return pump.
I have sat a radiator in just to see what space I have not sure what I am going to do yet about it.
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Allan

[ed4ran]

The frame is for a MK1, but mk2 and mk3 are pretty much/more or less the same.

Looks like it wont be long till you have it all running!! :shock:

Are you going to run the stock ecu (chipped?) or are you going for something aftermarket?

[Allan McD]

I am going to run the stock ecu initially just to get it on the road but I have a megasquirt which I am planning on using for the ignition day one and fuel later.
Allan

[Allan McD]

I got the alternator brackets made and fitted tonight.
http://www.16vminiclub.com/gallery/albums/userpics/altenator.JPG
No problems so far it’s getting easier having done the Honda earlier in the year
Allan

[Allan McD]

Things are moving fast I got the full Swift steering column with wheel and all the electric controls fitted it took a fair bit of fabricating but I got there.
I also got the suspension finished on the RH side I will get the other side done tomorrow (I don’t work Mondays in the winter) and measure what I need for drive shafts.
Its now time for LAGER :)
Allan
Picks tomorrow

[miniswift]

Hi Allan,

You are going so fast!
I have made drive shaft and I think it was 320mm long.
If you make it so that it has equal length driveshaft then it is about that.
Swift drive shaft has Nitrided and it is very hard upto70% of diameter... from outside towards in.
I have now made 3 of them.
I got 2x mk2 Swift driveshafts with Mini CV end and 1x mk1 Gti.

Here is a link for it.

http://www.16vminiclub.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3499&highlight=

Cheers
Atchi

[Allan McD]

I have just been out to the garage and done a rough measurement and my shafts need to be around 320mm and 250mm there isn’t any adjustment for left - right movement so I cant get equal length shafts easily (its a Mk3 using Allspeed).
Allan

[MattG]

come on .. two days with no updates

Matt

[Allan McD]

I have done a fair bit but nowt to talk about.
I spent a few hours collecting a spare Swift GTI engine just need a spare MK3 gearbox.
Allan
Update later I am going out NOW

[ed4ran]

Spare? Is this just incase you blow up the first one? :lol:
or are you going to rebuild it and then swap them over?

[Allan McD]

Both reasons.
Allan

[Allan McD]

I have got the subframe fitted for the final time (I hope)
and the brake master cylinder fixed I had to tilt it a we bit for clearance reasons.
http://www.16vminiclub.com/gallery/albums/userpics/master-cylinder.JPG
It still needs a bit of finishing and I have the clutch near finished its cable using the Suzuki parts bar the mini foot lever it just need boxing in and weled.
Allan

[ed4ran]

Seems like youll have it running in no time at all!!
Got any pics of the amount of bulkhead mods needed? :wink:

[Allan McD]

This is a picture of my bulkhead but it had a turbo a series before so it already had the bulkhead turbo box fitted.
Allan
http://www.16vminiclub.com/gallery/albums/userpics/turbo-box.JPG
Tonight the engine is going in for the final time way a bit of luck.
Allan

[Allan McD]

I got the engine in and clutch finnished,I got a f/glass front today but I may just weld the old front on for the winter.
http://www.16vminiclub.com/gallery/albums/userpics/fglass-front.JPG
Allan

[Allan McD]

I have got the fuel system finished all the fuel lines are tight and when I stick a battery on the pump it runs at a constant 40psi I have an adjustable pressure regulator (rising rate) with a pressure gauge on.
No fuel leeks. :lol:
Allan

[Allan McD]

The wiring is thrown in and it runs no water so it only ran a few seconds but it’s charging and starts from the key. I am using the full harness Inc the steering column and ignition switch and stalks. The van has an MOT for about 3 weeks and I just got my free 12 months tax in the post today.
On the road soon. 8)
Allan
Ps I took a video of it runing but it didnt work so you will have to wait

[ed4ran]

Bugger me!! Thats quick!!! :shock:
Ive only just got mine on the road today so thats been a few months to get the engine in,
a few weeks is just silly :P :lol:
Got to do a front swift conversion soon (just after crimbo)
so im watching yours to see how well it fits and how much room there is
(its for my brother and he wants a turbo as well :| ).

[Allan McD]

There seems to be plenty room but I ant got it finished yet.
Allan

[Allan McD]

I have got a we video of it running.
Allan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS1Dj-fhlj8

[BassAddict]

Fancy a working holiday in Manchester !?!!?! Blimey Allan, how do you get stuff done so quick :shock: :lol:
Good work fella !
Rich

[Allan McD]

I dont have any time sorry.
I get it done quick because I get on with it and I am a mechanic by trade (motorcycle).
The driveshafts will be ready Monday morning I may get it in gear Monday.
Allan

[Allan McD]

Loads done no picks I will get some tomorrow.
I have the exhaust finished the radiator and all water works finished I have near finished the air pipe from turbo to inlet manifold :D Also I have the gear rods fitted just to bolt to the floor.
Allan
Near forgot I got my turbo oil scavenge pump fitted

[Allan McD]

Things are going to plan so far here are some picks of the turbo air pipe and air filter in the rear I plan to box the filter in and put a vent on the outside.
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Ps some of the pipe work in the back are a roll cage not the air pipe :wink:
Allan

[miniswift]

Hi,

Very quick build...I wish I could do the same once I go back into it.
I have a question, which car/bike is that radiator from?
It looks compact and beefy enough.

Keep up the good work.

Cheers
Atchi

[Allan McD]

I think the rad is from a metro I got it very cheap from ebay a couple of years ago I only wanted the fan :)
Allan

[noisymini]

Looks like an MPI Mini rad to me.

[Vtec Steve]

yup looks like a mpi mini rad to me 2.

[Swiftmini]

Hows it going :?:

[Allan McD]

Its coming along ok I have my drive shafts fitted and the gears all work the water side is compleate and the turbo and exhaust is just needing a bit of tinkering.
I have the oil scavinge pump plumbed in and wired its working a treat.
My garage has been a bit wet latley but today there was a small stream running through it so I had to dig a large dranage ditch down one side it was raining like !!!!!!!!! at the time no fun :evil:
Allan

[Allan McD]

Its on the road and going well there are loads of things to do to finish it. But I did 25 miles today with no wipers (it wasn’t raining) no horn and the electrics inside the van are chaotic the instrument panel is sitting on the passengers seat and there are wires all over the place. There is a fair bit of noise from the air intake which is inside the van I will box it in this week sometime.
Here is a video from just before its maiden run
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZywgtuWCXDg
Allan

[Allan McD]

Oops I double posted.

[Swiftmini]

Incredible!!! Is there any issues with turbo lag?

Where is the video of the maiden voyage?

[Allan McD]

There dosnt seem to be any turbo lag but I am just giving it a bit of a shake down so I will let you know.
I will get a video up of it on the road soon.
Allan

[Marcus Nordblom]

Excellent work there Allan, wish i had your knowledge/speed!

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Marcus

[Allan McD]

Lots of my knowledge is just guesswork.
Allan
And help from the 16vminiclub

[ed4ran]

There is a fair bit of noise from the air intake which is inside the van
Welcome to my world :lol: :lol: :!:

[evolotion]

Not bad for someone who popped onto my drivway, pointed at the valver and said "thats not a real mini" :lol: welcome to the dark side, again.

Props onteh speed :) cant wait to see it on the road!

[RabNo1]

Now your just making the rest of us look bad, you need to slow down abit on the next one :lol:

How much boost do you think youll be runing? Look forward to hearing how the rear mount turbo works out.

[Allan McD]

It boosts at 3000rpm with 6psi by 3500 I had it at 12 ish on the first run but after fidling with the bleed valve I am going to settle for 6psi until I get my megasquirt fitted.
I plan to run 10psi with the standard compression I think it will be reliable at that. I recon it will sound pretty cool with a dump valve under the rear subframe 8)
Allan
Ps Evo I have been converted.

[Allan McD]

I have just got back from colecting a Swift GTI1300 engine and box the next project is near a start date :D
I am not sure what to do I have a pickup and a saloon both need renovating one will get Suzuki turbo the outher will get Vauxhall or ????????????.
Should I do a good job or a quick job?
Allan

[ed4ran]

Do a good job, not that the others didnt look good in the pics. :lol:

Where are you getting all these engines from?
I think i might get one to rebuild for the turbo, but thats probably a bit further in the future once ive sorted a few things.

Swift Pickup :D

[Allan McD]

Where are you getting all these engines from?

Fleebay

[ed4ran]

I look regularly but dont see them that often, and theres only the odd one that turns up near me. :(
The other day there was one for 100 in Scunthorpe, but i dont think i need one quite yet.

[miniswift]

Hi,

There is one in Nottingham with gearbox.
If you are interested, pm me and I will send you his mobile no.

Cheers
Atchi

[Allan McD]

The other day there was one for 100 in Scunthorpe, but i dont think i need one quite yet.
I had to pay £102 to get that one :shock:
a 400 mile round trip, if you want one you just have to keep looking and traveling.
And you are better to have a spare now cheap than have to pay me £600 when you need one :wink:
Allan

[ed4ran]

:D I was tempted to get that one, but i think ill get told off if i get another engine in the garage before i get rid of some of the junk in there.

[Allan McD]

I managed to get an MOT :lol: :lol:
No real problems just had to stip clean and grease he rear brakes weld a we bit of the inner wing jobs a good one.
Allan

[evolotion]

nicely done sir :) hows she drive?

[Allan McD]

Its ace I still had a mot from before so I have had it on the road for a few weeks.But it now has an MOT with a Suzuki engine.
I am running it at 5psi at the mo but I have had it at 10psi on 10 I recon its around 150bhp using my ass as a dyno :shock:
Allan
Ps it dosnt boost very well in the low gears I assume thats because of the turbo being so far from the engine

[BassAddict]

Cool - glad its all mot'd up !! Are you still going to Bingley - if so which one are you taking ?!
Rich

[evolotion]

boot very well in the low gears I assume thats because of the turbo being so far from the engine

probably a good thing mate, you ought to ahve seen me driving to work today in teh snow :lol:

[Allan McD]

Cool - glad its all mot'd up !! Are you still going to Bingley - if so which one are you taking ?!
Rich
I plan to go weather permiting in the Suzuki van but may take a sprinter as I plan to buy loads.
Allan

[matt]

Abit of a revival of this awesome build with a question. What is a oil scavenge pump and where did you buy this from? Im thinking rear turbo setup but im guessing this scavenge pump is to get the oil to return from the turbo?

[Allan McD]

Abit of a revival of this awesome build with a question. What is a oil scavenge pump and where did you buy this from? Im thinking rear turbo setup but im guessing this scavenge pump is to get the oil to return from the turbo?

The pump is to return the oil from the turbo, I got the pump from ebay.
Allan

[matt]

Ive just found some on ebay thanks but a bit pricey!

[Allan McD]

I think the one I got was about £70 but it was a while ago.
Most were very expensive I just kept looking.
Allan