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16vMiniShop
23-09-2006, 07:46 PM
will update with pics in the next week , basically its a spi sports pack mini , and will have a type-r motor in it. Have motor / gearbox. Allspeed subframe arriving this week , and so is the car.

Matt

Marcus Nordblom
23-09-2006, 08:17 PM
Busmans holiday for you Matt 8)

Marcus

MarkLD
23-09-2006, 08:43 PM
Looking forward to see how you get on with this Matt as I'm considering this for my Mk1.

BassAddict
23-09-2006, 08:56 PM
Bugger - someone else who'll be on the road before me :evil:
Good luck with the build Matt - look forward to seeing some photo's and, knowing you, a quick turn-around !!! 8)
Rich

MattG
24-09-2006, 04:20 PM
s80 LSD gearbox collected , and lots of other bits. brand new clutch to be fitted. started fitting the honda fuel pump into the mini fuel tank.

Ordered watson 3.2 final drive.

mooncat
24-09-2006, 04:28 PM
sounds very nice.....

Ordered watson 3.2 final drive

is this a new FD as I though it was a 3.4

Vtec Steve
24-09-2006, 05:39 PM
Can you fit the watsons FD to a LSD box?? I thought Tony W had to change to a quafe LSD for it to fit.

MattG
24-09-2006, 06:04 PM
Can you fit the watsons FD to a LSD box?? I thought Tony W had to change to a quafe LSD for it to fit.

geoff says yes ! :) .. there is a difference but he has the correct parts.

Matt

MattG
24-09-2006, 06:05 PM
sounds very nice.....

Ordered watson 3.2 final drive

is this a new FD as I though it was a 3.4

:oops: 3.4 it is :) was not thinking....

Matt

16vMiniShop
28-09-2006, 09:04 AM
Customer has left dropped his car off , 96 MPI :
http://www.v6mini.com/images/mackers/P9280031.JPG

Type-R motor :
http://www.v6mini.com/images/mackers/P9280033.JPG
and the new final drive waiting to go in :
http://www.v6mini.com/images/mackers/P9280034.JPG

Moving into new workshops at the weekend , so will have more space to play. More welding on the car than first thought ..but it has to be done.
if all goes well will drop the engine in Saturday for a trial fit.

Matt

BassAddict
28-09-2006, 12:39 PM
Good luck with it Matt - hope the welding doesn't take too long !

mackers_uk
28-09-2006, 08:18 PM
Hi All,
Strange seeing my Mini over 260 miles away instead of in front of my house.
Can't wait to see the build progress, although I will cringe lots when I see my Mini of 10 years cut into 2.
It's all for the best, otherwise it would have continued rusting a slow, painful death.
Can't wait to join the 16V posse! :D
Thanks to Matt for his skill, space & time (paid of course!) - I never would get time to do this.

BassAddict
28-09-2006, 08:25 PM
Welcome to the forums - just aswell no one said anything nasty :lol: Dont blame you for getting someone else to do it - its just what I should've done in hindsight !!!!
Dont think there's many people on here with more hybrid mini building experience than Matt, and probably even less that work as quick ! :)
Rich

16vMiniShop
30-09-2006, 07:51 PM
morning :
http://www.v6mini.com/images/mackers/P9300038.JPG
afternoon :
http://www.v6mini.com/images/mackers/P9300047.JPG

This is the best part about buying a pre built frame .. no time wasting ...

Matt

Allan McD
30-09-2006, 08:58 PM
I smell a sales pitch :wink:
When I buy loads of bits from the 16 valve mini shop I will build my Suzuki pickup quick.
Allan

markrally73
03-10-2006, 08:16 PM
Yum Yum, Any progress? Its tuesday now, Is it running?

mooncat
03-10-2006, 10:40 PM
Ah if only it was that easy.... well the clock is running I wonder when it will be back on the road and finished...?? 8)

MattG
03-10-2006, 11:08 PM
well , will be working thurs/fri/sat on it ..so we shall see 8)

Matt

BassAddict
05-10-2006, 09:17 AM
Hope progress goes well today :)

plastic rules
05-10-2006, 10:58 AM
I thought the idea of this Allspeed subframe was so you could fit it into a standard roundnose without having to cut the front off?

Geehawk
05-10-2006, 11:18 AM
Hope you have ordered lots of red wire for the electrics and :megasquirt: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

And a specimen bottle :shock: :wink:

MattG
05-10-2006, 06:53 PM
ok manifold wont fit without bulk head mods , or modding the inlet .. so i am going the modding the inlet route .

got the front end roughly on :
http://www.v6mini.com/images/mackers/PA050055.JPG
http://www.v6mini.com/images/mackers/Pa050054.JPG


i have gone flip front as the front was rusty as hell , and it just helps with access etc.

started playing with the gearlinkage , use to vauxhalls being all inside .. dont have much room for a 2 1/2 exhaust pipe under there when you have the linkage there as well.

Allan McD
05-10-2006, 07:21 PM
Std length no bulhead mods :shock:
You are going to have fun
Best of luck.
Allan

noisymini
05-10-2006, 07:58 PM
.. dont have much room for a 2 1/2 exhaust pipe under there when you have the linkage there as well.

Indeed! :lol:

Looking good Matt.

Must be cool for mackers_uk to be able to watch your progress.

MattG
05-10-2006, 10:53 PM
Std length no bulhead mods :shock:
You are going to have fun
Best of luck.
Allan

fun .. hmm funny word .. but yes extended front would be SO MUCH simpler ..

Matt

mackers_uk
05-10-2006, 11:14 PM
Must be cool for mackers_uk to be able to watch your progress.

Yeah, it is, but I feel like I should be doing something and getting my hands dirty! Very strange, like its doing itself!
At least its in the hands of a 16V Wizard! :D

jimfai
06-10-2006, 12:41 AM
hey matt, going to be hard to cool the car with that solid panel in front????


what year manifold are you using? i used a 1996one on mine and it fits without bulkhead mods. i am thinking of an aftermarket skunk2 one as they are even shorter, jim

mooncat
06-10-2006, 08:41 AM
well , will be working thurs/fri/sat on it ..so we shall see

we will... 8)

Allan McD
06-10-2006, 09:38 AM
I think it will be air cooled and running with no charging system but he will get there :wink:

MattG
06-10-2006, 08:04 PM
one end of the drive shafts :oops: :

http://www.v6mini.com/images/mackers/PA060070.JPG
gear linkage done , still not happy (read use to) the under floor linkage :)
http://www.v6mini.com/images/mackers/PA060073.JPG

did lots of other small bits , no photos .. my manifold idea will be completed by monday ..if i am not happy with it i will go another route... keep changing my mind.

mocked up a rad in cardboard :) lol..

did not even bother trying to cut up the standard type-R exhaust manifold , bought a S.Alexander one instead .. just have to wait for it to arrive no and see if it fits :? :shock:

dont seem to have room for a servo at the moment , as it hits the dizzy ! lol

thats it for today ..sorry it was not much .. these vtec's take ages to build :)

Matt

MattG
08-10-2006, 11:07 AM
what did i do yesterday ? so long ago LOL.

stripped old subframe of suspension hubs etc ,allready for refurb and a lick of paint. waiting for the alloy 4 pots/groved disks to turn up.

found more rust on the shell . rover really did not do much rust proofing in the 90's did they.

lots of little bits.

Matt

Spag
08-10-2006, 11:42 AM
rover really did not do much rust proofing in the 90's did they.
Matt

Oh, I dunno, they did a pretty good job of covering up the bare metal with paint - on the bits than you can see from say 10 feet away :wink:

mooncat
08-10-2006, 12:31 PM
Right its Sunday are you finished yet...??? 8)

MattG
12-10-2006, 08:30 PM
moddified inlet , will cost about 175 pounds if you want this done. Allthough have to say its not proven yet so make your own mind up.
Once its down it will go on the rollers and get wide band checked :)
http://www.v6mini.com/images/mackers/PA120085.JPG
http://www.v6mini.com/images/mackers/PA120089.JPG
please dont fill this thread up with stuff like "that will never work" etc .I will let you know if it works later !

lots of other bits done , but only borring rust prevention :twisted:
exhaust manifold should be here soon. Now the inlet is down it might be time to try and figure out the wiring loom to start it !
http://www.v6mini.com/images/mackers/PA120088.jpg

MattG
05-11-2006, 04:11 PM
http://www.16vminishop.co.uk/gallery/main.php/d/79-2/PB030245.JPG

not going to say anything :lol:

jimfai
05-11-2006, 11:02 PM
looks good except i do not see enough red wires in the loom shot???

mooncat
06-11-2006, 08:51 AM
Where are you going to mount the rad..?? is it in front of the gearbox.?? or infront of the exhaust.?? looking at the exhaust there isnt that much more clearance than my DC Sports...

plastic rules
06-11-2006, 09:21 AM
not going to say anything :lol:

Now that is what the C16 manifold should look like, nice.

plastic rules
06-11-2006, 09:22 AM
not going to say anything :lol:

Now that is what the C16 manifold should look like, nice.

MattG
06-11-2006, 09:24 AM
not going to say anything :lol:

Now that is what the C16 manifold should look like, nice.

if only this manifold cost the same as the c16se manifold ! LOL

Matt

jimfai
06-11-2006, 01:36 PM
SA's header looks nice on there, is it jet hot coated? how much clearance is there under the oil pan. i had thought about this one but i am not sure it would clear under the b20 block?

MattG
06-11-2006, 02:35 PM
Where are you going to mount the rad..?? is it in front of the gearbox.?? or infront of the exhaust.?? looking at the exhaust there isnt that much more clearance than my DC Sports...

Hello......

gearbox

mooncat
06-11-2006, 03:34 PM
Also is the manifold 2 piece....??? and what is the cost inc shipping and taxes for the manifold...?? as by looking at it I cant see the benefits of this manifold over some off the more readily available others

cheers Keith

DarrenW
06-11-2006, 06:06 PM
Also is the manifold 2 piece....??? and what is the cost inc shipping and taxes for the manifold...?? as by looking at it I cant see the benefits of this manifold over some off the more readily available others

cheers Keith

It fits in a standard round nose. This looks like a salexander manifold from the looks of it, as jimfai mentioned and runs fairly close to the block as a result.

The normal manifolds I have seen would not fit, as they extend from the block to far. Doesnt need to be 2 piece as with a standard round nose, you really need a removeable front end cross member and front end.

Jimfai, a member has this on a B18(smith1380gt) if I remember right and I think that has the same height block as a B20 (not sure if they use the same sump, B18c5 is different to a B16, but dont know much about a B20 sump)

EDIT .. Does the clutch slave cylinder all fit okay Matt? if you are making up something thinner or alike I may be interested in some kind of purchase. :oops:

16vMiniShop
24-11-2006, 07:51 PM
ok sorry for the lack of updates , have been spending most of the last month getting rid of rust ! , which i cant be bothered to tell you lot about as thats the borring bit anyway.

ok so what i have done ... first off i have moved the servo accross as the customers wants a servo , and we are running std ecu/dizzy and the dizzy gets in the way. I could have gone for a remote servo etc but was more happy keeping with std master/servo setup as you know it works.

the all new 16v mini shop 2 1/2 inch back box is in :
http://www.16vminishop.co.uk/album/2%20and%20half%20inch%20system/slides/PB240248.JPG
fits to std mini mounts ,will not be cheap .. but is VERY shiny.
not happy with the jetex silencer :
http://www.16vminishop.co.uk/album/mackers/slides/PB240257.JPG
as it is a little to big for me to be happy with ground clearence, as this is a system that will be fitted to other cars.

hope you enjoy .. might be off to the paint shop in a few weeks :)

Marcus Nordblom
24-11-2006, 10:25 PM
Good work Matt!

Remspoor
25-11-2006, 07:31 AM
Nice progress.......................................... ..........

What i have done with the stock servo, put it in a angle for a good fit.
Think 45 degrees orso. U get more room and it looks stock.

Got pics in test fit, removed them here.
Don't want to hyjack post.

MattG
12-12-2006, 05:02 PM
Floor pans have now been replaced as well , just some holes to fix in the boot then thats all the rust gone.
http://www.16vminishop.co.uk/album/mackers/slides/PC080001.JPG

Front end fixed on , not happy with the passenger side scuttle join. will have to fix that before painting.

floor plates have been welded in. now have some finishing jobs before it all comes apart for painting.

16vMiniShop
16-12-2006, 08:58 PM
roll cage in :
http://www.16vminishop.co.uk/album/mackers/slides/PC140023.JPG
Last panels to go on , the A's ! :
http://www.16vminishop.co.uk/album/mackers/slides/PC160033.JPG

16vMiniShop
03-01-2007, 09:54 PM
finally after finding even more rust in the rear wheel arches , and also behind the shock mounts it is nearly ready for paint :

http://www.16vminishop.co.uk/album/mackers/slides/P1030066.JPG

hope people like the front wheels LOL

All booked in , and going to the paint shop Monday (8th)
Time now to strip gearbox and fit new FD, and get subframe all built up.

Wouter
04-01-2007, 12:01 AM
hope people like the front wheels LOL

extremely handy in rainy weather: no aquaplaning! :)

Nice job btw...

Cheers,
Wouter

MattG
07-01-2007, 10:37 AM
http://www.16vminishop.co.uk/album/mackers/slides/P1060004.JPG

Tarox 9 1/4 inch disks with 6 pot calipers

MiniManiac2001
07-01-2007, 06:32 PM
holy sh!t, thats what you call brakes! :shock:

MattG
16-02-2007, 06:34 PM
now where are we.... yes thats it moved workshop , car is now painted and going back together :
http://www.16vminishop.co.uk/album/Honda/mackers%20(1.8%20Type%20R)/slides/P2070134.JPG
engine is now in and the 2 1/2 inch stainless system is made and fitted :
http://www.16vminishop.co.uk/album/Honda/mackers%20(1.8%20Type%20R)/slides/P2150167.JPG
http://www.16vminishop.co.uk/album/Honda/mackers%20(1.8%20Type%20R)/slides/P2150171.JPG

just sorting out the honda loom this weekend to try and fire her up.

mininut
16-02-2007, 08:10 PM
Looking good matey.

M.

BassAddict
16-02-2007, 10:44 PM
Nearly there ! Looks pretty tidy Matt :)

mininut
17-02-2007, 06:06 PM
Nearly there ! Looks pretty tidy Matt :)

You're not going to use specimen bottles on this one are you Matt? :wink:

M.

MattG
17-02-2007, 07:29 PM
lol no maz :) ..

anyway .. got it fired uptoday !!! not onto vtec but just tickover :)

inbetween running kids partys :shock: :?

matt 1380
18-02-2007, 09:20 AM
What price can you do the fully stainless exhaust for Matt? Do you need a personal email about them?

MattG
19-02-2007, 07:34 PM
small vid of engine starting up :

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-8302424125923491379

and yes i know its "hunting" :wink:

Swiftmini
19-02-2007, 08:59 PM
very nice :P

MarkLD
20-02-2007, 08:40 AM
Sounds very nice Matt 8)

MattG
11-03-2007, 04:40 PM
took it for a drive around the car park yesterday ... hopfully will be 98% done for the open day on saturday :wink:

Matt

MattG
14-03-2007, 08:34 PM
http://www.16vminishop.co.uk/album/Honda/mackers%20(1.8%20Type%20R)/slides/P1010208.JPG

MattG
20-03-2007, 10:54 AM
just waiting for rad , then its MOT

http://www.16vminishop.co.uk/album/Honda/mackers%20(1.8%20Type%20R)/slides/P3170015.JPG

http://www.16vminishop.co.uk/album/Honda/mackers%20(1.8%20Type%20R)/slides/P3170013.JPG

noisymini
20-03-2007, 11:57 AM
Looking good 8) 8) 8)

MattG
20-03-2007, 11:58 AM
its very tight .. as you would know :wink: :oops: :lol:

noisymini
20-03-2007, 01:12 PM
its very tight .. as you would know :wink: :oops: :lol:

Definatley!

I see you have had to trim the bonnet/wing gutter. We were able to just avoid that with ste's but that type r engine is a little taller isn't it? Also the engine must be in a slightly different position to the BC frame though cant be that much differenet cos as far as i can tell it just wouldn't fit if it were that far different to the BC frame.

So you got a different rad on its way then? Made to order?

MattG
20-03-2007, 01:20 PM
So you got a different rad on its way then? Made to order?

yes made to order ,another costly item for people to moan about :lol: but will be getting more made once proven.. not just a simple square rad :wink:

B20GT
20-03-2007, 01:27 PM
Will it fit a clubman, I REALLY struggled with my KOYO alloy rad, to the extent I'm not going to run it (its going in the Teg :x .)

Do you offer a full bolt on exhaust yet aswell mat, or is it just that backbox and we need to fabricate the rest................. :idea:

mooncat
20-03-2007, 02:10 PM
It looks really nice but you will have to add the side indicators or it wont got through an MOT...

Remspoor
21-03-2007, 05:34 AM
8)

Nice.............................

Wish i would be this far.

Wouter
03-04-2007, 07:22 AM
well done!!!

the exhaust manifold, will that fit only the type R or also other honda engines?

I working on a zc1 a standard round nose (no flipfront), but I will probably need some more space at the front.

Cheers,
Wouter

Allan McD
03-04-2007, 08:59 AM
Is it on the road yet :?:
Allan

16vMiniShop
12-04-2007, 06:08 PM
on the road , MOT'd , ready to be collected by customer tommorow :

http://www.16vminishop.co.uk/album/Honda/mackers%20(1.8%20Type%20R)/slides/P1010074.JPG

MattG
12-04-2007, 06:19 PM
small vid

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=4691618611655991746

BassAddict
12-04-2007, 09:58 PM
Excellent ! Well done Matt !! :)

noisymini
13-04-2007, 05:06 PM
Looking good 8)

Allan McD
13-04-2007, 05:45 PM
:lol: 8) :lol: 8)
A good jod
well done.
Allan

MattG
13-04-2007, 07:12 PM
270 miles later the customer is home safe and sound. not a problem ..even took a BMW cooper S (turbo) on the way home.

Matt

Marcus Nordblom
13-04-2007, 09:13 PM
Very well done Matt :P

A wolf in sheep skin!

//marcus

mackers_uk
14-04-2007, 08:59 PM
As the 'Happy Customer', I would just like to thank 16V MiniShop for all the hard work and dedication they have put into this build.
It is an absolute dream, and an amazing machine!
I would really recommend them to anyone interested!!!!!!
:D
Smoking that new BMW Coop S was very nice indeed! Wondered what hit him - his 07 reg must still be rattling from the VTEC noise! LOL!
Must be sensible now, while I learn not to exceed my new limits!