16v Mini Shop Suzuki Frame [Archive]

GTi_Clubby

14-04-2006, 06:20 AM

looks good, hows the drive shafts?? i was told the engine needs to sit very close to the right guard to get close/equal lenght shafts??

miniswift

17-04-2006, 10:13 PM

Looks very clean, Matt.

Tell me is this engine sitting in any angle?
Std G13B is 15 degrees to forward.
If you can do that, all of oil level will be good.
Where will you attach alternator?
I will be most interested with that!

Cheers
Atchi

MattG

18-04-2006, 08:28 AM

looks good, hows the drive shafts?? i was told the engine needs to sit very close to the right guard to get close/equal lenght shafts??

The engine is be positioned for best fit , we are not trying for equal length shafts. I think proper suspension / corner weights is more effective that drive shaft length.

Looks very clean, Matt.

Tell me is this engine sitting in any angle?
Std G13B is 15 degrees to forward.
If you can do that, all of oil level will be good.
Where will you attach alternator?
I will be most interested with that!

Cheers
Atchi

The engine is sitting about 13 degrees forward, alternator should not be a problem :wink:

more photos soon guys...

Matt

Marcus Nordblom

18-04-2006, 09:55 AM

On my lhd mini the diff housing fouled the stearing rack "hump" when the
engine was to much to the right, with equal length shafts it just missed it

This was the case with my frame about 5 degrees forward and engine mounted pretty high, i´m sure you guys get it right though

Marcus

miniswift

18-04-2006, 11:23 AM

Hi Marcus,

I did very similar to you then.
I mounted my engine about 5 degrees and equal length drive shaft.
I needed to do this so I can fit R1 carbs inside Std. bonnet.
I haven't figure out where I will be mounting my alternator and so on though....
Also, I will be moving house soon......when will I finish my project.... :cry: .
It was mean to be 2 years project and now it is 6 years.
I think i can add 10 in front of it.... :lol: .
Cheers
Atchi

Marcus Nordblom

18-04-2006, 12:16 PM

Atchi,

I bolted my alternator directly to the top engine mount bracket,
then just a rod in front of the engine that attach to the adjustable thingy on the alternator.
That was the last thing i did to my frame before sending my engine to Mr. Allspeed… i feel like a cheater but i will probably sail through mot, they can be a real pain in the ass over here :lol:

Also, I will be moving house soon......when will I finish my project.... .
It was mean to be 2 years project and now it is 6 years.
I think i can add 10 in front of it.... .

I have renovating house, baby (his 2 years now), and building
garage the "must do" tasks never ends…

Marcus[/quote]

miniswift

18-04-2006, 05:42 PM

Hi Marcus,

I know how you feel.
I got 2 small children 1 and 3 year old.
I have redecolated entire house (11 rooms)..in 2 years.

You will think you can work on your cars but how wrong was I... :cry: .
I will be moving house and getting a new job.
New house will be no garage to start off with so my mini will be in parent's garage....

Hence... many more years.

Oh well, one day.....

Swiftmini

20-04-2006, 12:19 PM

I had the same problem with the steering rack hump. Untill i looked at the new quick rack that i had bought and realised that it didn't have the hump on it. The only clearance issues i have is with the driver side tie bar at the moment i think it will hit the sump, i may look at changing the mounts but i don't want to yet.

My engine has about 5degrees of lean anymore and i don't think it will fit into the mini front end.

It will be interesting to see the alternator setup on the all speed frame.

ed4ran

23-04-2006, 01:58 PM

Is there going to be any room for a turbo? :D

MattG

24-04-2006, 10:42 AM

don't ask for any more pics , will show them when its all ready.. but this is the suzuki engine sitting on all its engine mounts in the frame :

http://www.16vminiclub.com/gallery/albums/userpics/suzyframe2.jpg

miniswift

24-04-2006, 07:24 PM

Hi Matt,

You haven't got middle shaft housing for D/S drive shaft.
Looks like you are using mounting holes for your rear engine mount.
Will you have special type driveshaft?
If you need to see ehat it looks like(housing), I have both mk1 and mk2 setup.
So let me know.

Cheers
Atchi

MattG

25-04-2006, 08:24 AM

its uses the std middle shaft , there is a step in the bearing carrier to allow for the engine mount to fit at the same time.

Matt

MattG

12-05-2006, 03:34 PM

http://www.16vminiclub.com/gallery/albums/userpics/altbracket.jpg

alternator bracket done

Swiftmini

12-05-2006, 04:00 PM

nicely done.

wot will the headlamp clearance be like??

cheers
kev

Marcus Nordblom

12-05-2006, 05:53 PM

Looks ace! :lol:

Marcus

miniswift

12-05-2006, 09:21 PM

Hi Matt,

That's very neat!
I'm using those 4 screw holes for my engine mounts.
I was going to weld bracket to top og my engine mount so that it will stay fix to my engine rather than subframe.

Thanks for that, I can see how I can do it now!
Will you need longer belt for it?

Cheers
Atchi

buljac

13-05-2006, 10:33 AM

Swiftmini

13-05-2006, 11:07 AM

I guess gettin the turbo to fit will be a headache in round front mini, regardless of frame design.

It will all depend on turbo size, manifold design, intercooler size and radiator position.

So many constrainghts with a round nose.

What turbo and manifold design do u wish to use? probably best to start a new thread for the turbo questions and answers.

turbovan

16-05-2006, 11:07 AM

not impossible tough :wink:

MattG

17-05-2006, 10:10 PM

http://www.16vminiclub.com/gallery/albums/userpics/clear3.jpg
http://www.16vminiclub.com/gallery/albums/userpics/clear2.jpg
http://www.16vminiclub.com/gallery/albums/userpics/clear1.jpg

hope its of intrest.

Matt

evolotion

18-05-2006, 12:33 AM

Goody goody!!!

Cant wait for it... I have ordered on frame + bought 10 tickets to win a fram. :D

How is it with the space for turbo?

My is going 4wd + turbo. Motec M4+Stack instrument and carbon dash from Curlye. Parts from Suzuki Racing Development is on its way (new forged pistions low 8,5:1 and forged rords)

I will post pictur of my project when I have al the parts. Cant wait for the fram..... :D

thread hijack. but heres an idea fo the absolute minimum space required. this is the tinyest manifold setup i could come up with. looks litk itl fit but dont even think about getting a rad or intercooler between the turbo or grill :)

http://images16.fotki.com/v300/photos/5/512767/1853939/IMG_0577small-vi.jpg

pickup76

18-05-2006, 10:28 AM

Hi,
The engine looks about an inch more central than alot of the other conversions ive seen. Does the gearbox not now foul the nearside wing with it so far across? I ask as i dont want to cut the pickup im hoping to do this to, around to much.

Thanks
Chris

16vMiniShop

22-06-2006, 03:48 PM

All in production now ,first frame is ready to leave :
http://www.16vminishop.co.uk/images/frame_on_pallet2.JPG

Matt
http://www.16vminishop.co.uk

ed4ran

22-06-2006, 06:17 PM

I guessing these are just for the MK1 engines???
or is there going to be an option for the MK2??? :(

crazyrussian

28-06-2006, 04:59 AM

how much, what mk engine for, and what model mini for....

also, think u can ship to america?

16vMiniShop

28-06-2006, 06:08 AM

its for the mk1 engine , prices are on my site : http://www.16vminishop.co.uk ( i will except deposits )

its around 400 ukpounds to ship to the states (thats by air)
will fit al mini's .. mk1 need to have the rear floor mounts re-drlled as they are different pos.

hope that helps

Matt

16vMiniShop

28-06-2006, 06:27 AM

I guessing these are just for the MK1 engines???
or is there going to be an option for the MK2??? :(

no option for the mk2 , but thats not to say it cant be done . PM me.

Matt

evilernie

04-07-2006, 09:54 PM

I miht be interested in the Mk 2 too as I would like to retain the injection system etc, would like it all to be basically a suzy in a mini body!!

ed4ran

05-07-2006, 12:22 AM

The MK1 has injection as well.
and is smaller so fits easier in the front of the mini.

evilernie

06-07-2006, 10:09 PM

All well and good but not so yuseful when I already have a full Swift Gti car andf spare engine and gearbox!!

minipower

06-07-2006, 11:12 PM

Matt,

these rings around the rubbers, are they against torque? Haven't seen them, excluding several RUSH Seven. Hope, you understand my request :oops: .

Reg

Rüdiger
www.mini16v.de

MattG

07-07-2006, 02:33 PM

Matt,

these rings around the rubbers, are they against torque? Haven't seen them, excluding several RUSH Seven. Hope, you understand my request :oops: .

Reg

Rüdiger
www.mini16v.de[/quote

[quote]They are an engine mount overtravel stop and also give a contradictional resonance frequency (CRF) to the rubber.

... but i think they just look good .. lol

Matt