2.4 awd standard front mini

[peaty_34]

after looking at all the fun you guys are having, ive decided to start my build diary, ill try and update as much a possible with pictures. well i started in feb with a 1989 shell, my biggest aim was to make the car look like a mk1 and no extended front ,I was going to use a vauxhall 2.0 red top but bad reviews of the transfer box, I decided to go honda (the power of dreams) i was goin to use a b20 but my uncle had a 2.4 accord ivtec so that was the plan, but first i had lots of rust to contend with. I have put he pics on photobucket for you all to see as i cant quite get the hang on putting them on here:confused:


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To see all the pics vist photobucket and type in peaty_34

[peaty_34]

another mile stone made tonight the engine is sat in its cradle
What do you guys think.

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[evolotion]

dont meen to doubt you, but is that engine not awfully low compared to the shell?! in terms of sump Vs floor height? loving the fab work :)

[fra-mini]

hi matey, how big was the sheet you used for the floorpan? guessing its full width and not joined under the transmission box?

also, will you be putting the x member back in, or leaving it as is?

considering doing this myself but concerned if itll pass that silly IVA test..

[peaty_34]

Hi just to clear a few questions, after mounting the engine I can raise it level with the floor so the two main subframe rails are level with the floor.

I will measure the floor up if you wish, I made the tunnel the made the other bits the tunnel was made level with the bottom of the steering rackfor max room, the seats will be bolted to the cage I plan on running two tubes from side to side and bolt the floor to that so it don't flap about and also bolt the seats to

[Mr.Mini]

Hi There ,

What kind of wheels are on the car ?
I suppose 13 x 8 ?
Are they mini offset / PCD ?
Price / supplier ?

Love your project BTW

kind regards , Harald

[MarkLD]

Looking good, some nice fabrication work going on. Just to echo what Denis has said, your engine and frame looks pretty low so well worth double checking things before you get much further into it.

Mark

[peaty_34]

Hi the wheels are 13 x 7 ultralites they was 250 at mini in the park I think they were of midlands wheels , the subframe is two inch below the body, it's only tacked up at min, wanted to get engine sat in the cradle so I could get the correct hight, the sbframe and engine will be moving up two inch so it's all level, the floor on the car is 1 inch higher up than a standard mini so it can sit realy low on track days,
Thanks for all the coments it's always better to get a second look on things .

[peaty_34]

Sorry the wheels are mini offset but I've used ford studs

[MarkLD]

The higher floor makes it look worse in the photos. Sounds like you've got it all under control, keep up the good work and keep the photos coming.:D

[garyshoose]

Very nice indeed. Sounds like lots of neg but just trying to help. The offset on your wheels will give you major grief by pulling you all over the road. Make sure you have enough room to swap the wheels for something less carlos fandango, and therefore bring them in a bit more central to the hub. Will run a lot straighter under load.

One of those realy nice ones that come up every now and then :cool::vtec::cool:

[peaty_34]

Thanks for the advice I'll see what she handles like first but the wheel base is very close to a zcar layout so we'll see

[Allan McD]

wheel base is very close to a zcar layout so we'll see

Is yours rear wheel drive ?
Allan

[peaty_34]

Sorry no its all wheel drive but my uncle has a zcars mini and we've compeared the two Cars (eg wheel base)

[peaty_34]

Started to lift engine today , so put the car on the floor to get a better view of what needs to be done it looks very low with 4 inch ground clearance looks good though

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[strudel]

To see all the pics vist photobucket and type in peaty_34

Tried this with no luck. Have you got a link to give? JS



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[cooper_mark]

Tried this with no luck. Have you got a link to give? JS



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here u go

http://s1199.photobucket.com/home/peaty_34

[strudel]

Thanks for the help cooper_mark. I was unsuccessful with a search for his album. After viewing the album I was impressed with the radical approach to rebuilding the front bulkhead and frame design. Well done peaty_34!

I am interested to find out how the pattern was made for the rear arches. It must be laid out on a flat surface and then cut and bent to shape at the rear location. How difficult is it to make a template for one of these?

Do you lay out a half circle the size you want for the outer edge and then pick a spot to go perpendicular? Is the side that abuts the car just a larger circle? How does one determine the sizes? I'm not much good at geometry! Thanks JS

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[peaty_34]

hi strudle ive cut the standard mini archers out biggerso they are 660 wide i am a ducter buy trade no and got the idea from a fitting we make and fit, you need to make a circle,
the outer diameter of your arch, then draw a circle of the inner diameter of the arch in the middle of the big circle, cut them out in half the roll.

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hope this helps

[strudel]

Thanks for the info. I guess I was on the right track after all. I would make a light cardboard template and then adjust the shape for the body and then cut out of metal. Perfect. Thanks for the clarification. JS

[jaymeh]

taking you gona be runing her slammed by the look or them year arches. and does the a.4 fit in the standard round nose?

[peaty_34]

Yeah she'll be running low, the only reason it fits is due to the bulkhead, it's been moded to fit, it will also fit a k20a2 in as well as they are both the same size.

Small update started making the front subfame again looks 10x better than the first I'll get pics up asap

[jaymeh]

v.nice what sort of power you looking to have and its gona be 4wd aint it?

[peaty_34]

hi not sure of power, but with all the emissions crap off and a omex ecu, and a k20a2 head, i think 200 bph is possible, then next step when done is aa supercharger :D

[peaty_34]

hi all some more updates not had a lot of time on her this week, i wont see her at all next week working away :(

heres the pics of the new subframe and the start of a bottom arm

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hope you all like

[jaymeh]

looking good

[strudel]

Changing the front suspension? Looks like an interesting A frame setup. Coil overs or a strut? JS

[MattG]

is that roughly in the right position , the drive shaft is really going to have to angle forward allot from the Diff , allthough being a CV it should be ok ...

cant wait to see more

Matt

[peaty_34]

Hi not sure about suspension yet I think strut cause I'm using corsa hubs. The arm will be going thier I don't really like the angle but I've seen slot worse and still working.

[peaty_34]

hi all not posted for abit been working away, had a couple of hours on her today, got the front frame all tacked up looking miles better than the first one
what you think.
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[TonyWells]

The frame looks really neat.

It does look very tight to the engine and gearbox. is the frame going to be fully welded or bolted togther in places to make removing the engine or gearbox easier?

Also where did you get the brackets that you have hanging from you subframe for the bottom arms? did you get them cut or make them yourself? as i could use some for my frame.

[peaty_34]

hi tony thanks the frame will be welded up when complete with the n/s being removable ill take pic for you next week, the brackets i made at work. i cut out 8 squares the same size, clap them all together, run a weld down each side then drill and shape they all be the same then.

[r08rob]

I love the look of the tubing, it reminds of spondon or harris m/bike frames, street fighterish perhaps? Good stuff.
'scuse my ignorance but what does "all wheel drive mean"?? I guess it's not 4 wheel drive is it?

[peaty_34]

Hi thanks for the coments I use tube cause it' looks miles better than box and I think it looks alot more professional, I've always called it all wheel drive cause I beleve that when people say 4 wheel drive they think land rover, this is no land rover, so I say all wheel drive as to not confuse

[peaty_34]

had a good couple of hours on her thins morning, fitted a bottom arm made a dummy strut and restricted the steering rack and cut arch out abit, it all works as it should, which is always a good thing :)

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[r08rob]

what size is the tubing you're using on your front sub-frame, and what type of bender do you have? I have a floor standing hydraulic tube bender. do you guess and bend by eye what you think will be ok and suit?

[peaty_34]

Hi arty for late post been in the big USA, with my m8 Micky mouse:-D the tube is 35 ish of and 3 mm thick, a hydr bender is ok but it tends to crush the tube if it's to thin

[peaty_34]

ok another update got some nice big discs for the front and wilwood four pot for the front and the matching wilwoods for the back. The huge problem arose when i put the disc on the hub and sat the brake caliper on the disc, then put the wheel on :confused: i need a 30mm wheel spacer. and i dont do spacers so it looks like making my own hub,more fab work, ill post pics as soon as i get time, so the corsa hubs are out the window, the plan is to us a ford Ka wheel bearing as it fits the big vauxhall flange, make a hub with a 60mm nose like a mini hub (the bearing carrier) and fit the disc like zcars do on their front, lots of machining and welding but well get their.

[peaty_34]

here are the pics of the brakes nice and shiny :-D

the fronts
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the rears
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the big discs for the front
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[peaty_34]

Sorry for not updating all been very busy at work but got a cage fitted today still needs to be finished yet but getting thier

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And I've mounted my rear diff just need to shorten the prop


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[patlink]

wow that is fabrication to the extreme . looking good

[peaty_34]

Still waiting for front brakes from machine shop but rad came today so will be fitted tomoz, working away all next week so won't be able to do much

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[minidream94]

dude thats some amazing work there :) Whats the engine out of? the accord then connected to a CRV gearbox? Also whats the brake likely to be on this beast?

[peaty_34]

hi minidream your right its out of a accord then bolted to a crv 6 speed box, i have been told they run a 189 bph but ill take a the emissions rubbish off i think 200 will be their, then with a eaton m62 or m65 bolted to her she should fly, thats the plan

[minidream94]

hmmm, would be interesting if you had decided to use the diesel out the accord bolted to that box and awd, that would be a massivo beast (L)

[Spiyda]

What are you planning regards ducting the radiator.. ?

Its a bit of a pain..

I'm still working on a proper solution to airflow on our rear mounted rad..

[strudel]

I'm with Spiyda on this question regarding ducting. Since I have a van I had planned two rear small rads, one on each side, with a duct in front of each rear wheel. Running the water lines may be a bit of a chore but I think my methodology will work well with some good planning. Hope to see more on this project. I may have missed out on which year CRV 6 speed tranny you are using, could you elaborate. Thx. JS

[peaty_34]

Hi been working away and just come back to this
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As for the ducting I plan on taking air from the bottom if that dosent work I'll take air from the rear windows, and as for getting the air out, I am planing to make the parcel shelf sit at 45 degrees, so it's higher than the window so air will rise out of the bottom of the window, the windows will be perspex, if all else fails I'll go out the boot but thats last option, and the gearbox was of a 2007 crv

[Ollie133cup]

Yummy Kirkey seat =D

[peaty_34]

tryed the seat in place, felt mint, feeling like am getting some where, its times like this when all the heart ache and pain is worth it,

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[jaymeh]

Lovin this build. The way you modified the bulk head will that not cause possible problems when you go for a mot

[peaty_34]

Thanks , cause I have modified the bulkhead and floor , it's classed as moding the chassis so it will need a SVA/IVA so it will be road legal and safe

[peaty_34]

mounted the rad tonight, hope it gives people a better idea of what i am planning

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ill try and make a tank out of card, this will sit where the rear seat would be, hopefully ill get some water pipes and start making the tank and it will all come together, it will give a better picture of how it will work

[bhphunter]

Will you not have bleeding issues with the rad at that angle? I would suspect there to be an airtrap right at the top of it unless you maybe add a bleed to the top corner?

Build is looking great :cool:


David

[peaty_34]

Hi bhphunter yes that's the plan just a little bleed to get rid of that air

[peaty_34]

done abit to night, made a cardboard tank, the started to make templates for rear, you can now see how the rad will be ducted.

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[bhphunter]

looks cool :cool:

Might just be the pics but will the tank not be slap bang in the middle of where the airflow should be coming from? I presume you are wanting fresh air flowing up from under the car to feed the rad.

Would two smaller tanks either side be better?


Just a thought.


David.

[peaty_34]

I think thier should be plenty of sir getting to the rad but I'll see what it's like with a long thin tank, thanks for the input.

[peaty_34]

Water pipes came today, ran out of ally pipe, hopefully pedal box will be here when I get back form wadebridge,

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Btw the even say my name lol
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[Glenno]

Those hoses work well, but I'd recommend passing them through a bulkhead grommet etc. Despite having them "mounted" rigid, vibration etc will see them fret against the sharp edge of the bulkhead.

Alloy rad's like to move around when they heat/cool so dont like to be mounted too rigidy.

Interesting build I reckon.....

[peaty_34]

hi yeah the plan is to get some bigger pipe (the same make) or as you say get a grommet

[peaty_34]

pedal box came today,ill fit it at weekend.

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btw has anyone set one of these up, how do i set balance up (set it to middle then adjust when cars running)

[peaty_34]

Done abit today made a mounted pedal box made a cover for pedal box, shortened prop, and made a scoop for rad.

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[peaty_34]

More water pipes
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[peaty_34]

done a bit more since last post made cover for the water pipes

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started boxing in the rear end

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tried my hole swaggers in the foot plate

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and started fitting the rear brakes

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[mini_mad69]

Look great, nice and neat.

[peaty_34]

Bit more done today fitted shuttle, and window to make sure shuttle was ok, fitted fiberglass front which was a b!#ch, and decided to vent the tad through the boot, like the green mini in miniword (look to dogs)
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Going to fit bike throttle bodies instead of a supercharger to start with easyer to get it running and on the road then can play later, so waiting for them to come.

[peaty_34]

only had 30 mins on her tonite, cut some mesh for the boot holes and fitted a heat escape in the front valance, will do the same in the rear valance and a panels

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[peaty_34]

More shiny bits came today still no throttle bodies
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[peaty_34]

Yeah throttle bodies came today, started making manifold to fit
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Also cut vents out in rear valance
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And fitted level sensors to brake res
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[minmax89]

I presume the Cooper badge is a tongue-in-cheek nod to its origins and not actually part of a 'sleeper' look??

Well done so far, it's all looking great.

[peaty_34]

i wanted a sleeper look but if its going to be a road going race car, ill lose the sleeper look (vents in boot, vents in valance and vents in, A panels) but apart from that, its standard length, i think ill have her old english white with black roof and black wheels, have two filler caps like a cooper s and all the right features of a mk1. (mk1 boot, lights, door hinges) only we'll no ;)

[peaty_34]

some more hose came today so trial fitted the throttle bodies

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[nathanestate]

Can't wait to see this finished

[peaty_34]

not seen her for a bit but fitted mesh to rear boot

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mounted brake and clutch res

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and front brakes came back from machine shop, thanks keith

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only cost £145.

[peaty_34]

Started to make front hubs not as easy as it looks get everything lined up
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[peaty_34]

getting thier, just waiting for keith with the bearing carrier, then it can be tacked up and tryed in place

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[Juul]

Any progres done on the car? looks very good!

[vinnie]

is youre pedal box not mounted upsidepown?

[kcchan]

Its a floor mounted pedal box, flip it the other way and the pedals would be in the wrong order and you'd have dual MC clutch etc

[vinnie]

i only realized when i posted that lol,are the levers not going to be in the way of your foot though when you press the pedal?


exellent build by the way!keep up the good work