plans for a audi rs6 roundnose mini

[rs6mini]

hi guys just thought i would let you know what i am planning on doing. i have a 1971 mini shell and am planning a z cars conversion, but no ordinary engine transplant, i want mega power from a turbo engine, and what road car do you think has the most power for money, well i would say an audi rs6/ rs4 engine being 4.2 v8 twin turbo. this is my plan with a z cars rear wheel drive conversion and a 6 inch oof chop, fiat brava rear lights and a zeemax bodykit, with suspension coming in the form of either hydraulic or air ride. let me know if youthink i should carry on or go for something a bit more realistic.

[JoBu]

hi guys just thought i would let you know what i am planning on doing. i have a 1971 mini shell and am planning a z cars conversion, but no ordinary engine transplant, i want mega power from a turbo engine, and what road car do you think has the most power for money, well i would say an audi rs6/ rs4 engine being 4.2 v8 twin turbo. this is my plan with a z cars rear wheel drive conversion and a 6 inch oof chop, fiat brava rear lights and a zeemax bodykit, with suspension coming in the form of either hydraulic or air ride. let me know if youthink i should carry on or go for something a bit more realistic.

Oh its realistic and could be done, but i dont think you should have hydraulics or air ride cos it'll handle poo. And the 6" roof chop, brava rear lights, zeemax bodykit will make it look abit barry imho.

But of course its your car and your decision.

[rs6mini]

Oh its realistic and could be done, but i dont think you should have hydraulics or air ride cos it'll handle poo. And the 6" roof chop, brava rear lights, zeemax bodykit will make it look abit barry imho.

But of course its your car and your decision.[/quote]

i was only doing the bodykit, roof chop, brava rear lights and air ride suspension because it will be a show car, not really an every day driver. i want something abit different in the engine compartment and never seen one done with an audi rs6/rs4 engine.

[JoBu]

That fair enough. If you have a look here somone is doing a mini based car with an Audi engine fitted. He has named it 'minaudi' :
http://www.16vminiclub.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5273&start=0

[ed4ran]

IMHO It can still be a show car and not have a body kit, lights from another car (especially a fiat!!!) and air suspension,
and if you're spending the money on having that much power, why not do stuff to make the most of it? and not just use the extra power to lug "pretty" things about (I say it like that as personally wouldn't call them pretty!!) and power a stereo that is too big for the car (I know you didn't mention a stereo but i'm just saying!! :lol: ).

I see a show car as one that is made to a very high standard and looks like it actually fulfills its job (don't get me wrong i am all for show cars, i'm just not particularly fond of trailer toys).

Is there much point in doing the engine conversion if you're only going to take it to shows and say look what i paid someone to do?
Wouldnt it be better to take it to track days and drag strips and show people what it can do?

You did ask what people thought didnt you :lol: :twisted:

Sorry.

Ed.

[MK_Bob]

Firstly, this idea has given me a funny feeling just above and in front of my stomach. I'm sure i don't have to tell you about the potential for this thing when we're talking power to weight ratios!

I would have to agree with Jobu though about the air suspension and body modifications. The cars on this site are all being built to be used, and i can't imagine anyone giving a mint rs4/rs6 powered Mini some real stick around a track for fear of hitting some cones and damaging the bodywork! My Mini is going to look like crap, but that will only spur me on to drive the nuts off it! Doesn't matter if i smash into cones, gravel traps, barriers etc.

I would say that a more realistic (cheaper) option would be to build it without cosmetics in mind, have it purely as a drivers car. You wouldn't want to have such an amazing car without being able to use it to it's real potential. Lot's of people have very nice looking bodykitted Minis, but none of them have a twin turbo'd V8!

Edit - I type too slow, basically i agree with the other two!

[B20GT]

You'd be better fuckin your money in the bin or spendin it in a bar trying to impress the ladies :wink:

Im pretty sure that the air/ hydraulics would be a bit hard to do with a z cars setup. Call them and ask :wink:

as for budget, with that type of work, you'd be better buyin an audi, or better yet, get on the property ladder and put a deposit down on a house :wink:

[rs6mini]

i know what you saying guys, trust me i would be driving the car to shows as i hate cars that turn up and go home on trailors. whats the point. i think if i continue to do this project i will definately be driving it and use it at the strip, not sure about the track days though as would be to scared of ditching it in the gravel. that mini with the audi tt engine in the front is a great project but its not a real mini as he has had to chop the car to pieces to fit it in properly, not keeping the true mini dimensions. mine will be a genuine shell not extended, widened, cut and shut etc........ the only mods would be in the rear end department. i can pick up an engine gearbox and all ancillaries for £4000 then to mod the engine to its full potential would cost in the region of another £5000 so this is an option but i feel a standard rs4/6 engine will cope pretty well in standard trim. i can understand the air ride or hydraulics will be a but odd especially on a z cars frame. but has anyone done it, no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so why not be the first.

[Minicooper]

Just one question where would you sit?

Cheers
David

[XEValver]

Which engine are we talking about here? B5 RS4? or B7 RS4? its the B7 thats got the 4.2 litre V8, but thats an N/A motor. the B5 has the twin turbo's, but thats 2.7 V6 :?

The C5 RS6 has the twin turbo'd 4.2 litre V8 which produces 450ish hp iirc,

which one were you intending to use?

[ed4ran]

There are minis with Hydraulics as you can buy a kit for normal mini suspension, so its not new, and just because someone hasnt done something might actually point to the fact its not the best thing to do (or worth it)?
I think id rather have a Z cars monte carlo with a ridiculous engine in it, plus do it to a high standard for show purposes and that would be unique.

I have more respect for a car that uses an engine or part that is popular but is used in a new way or is just a well made setup that works very well, than a car that has something crazy just to be the first to have it.

[thrash911]

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[thrash911]

oops was trying to put some pics of my chopped mini with brava lights fitted on the site but dont know how to. sorry.

[B20GT]

i know what you saying guys, trust me i would be driving the car to shows as i hate cars that turn up and go home on trailors. whats the point. i think if i continue to do this project i will definately be driving it and use it at the strip, not sure about the track days though as would be to scared of ditching it in the gravel. that mini with the audi tt engine in the front is a great project but its not a real mini as he has had to chop the car to pieces to fit it in properly, not keeping the true mini dimensions. mine will be a genuine shell not extended, widened, cut and shut etc........ the only mods would be in the rear end department. i can pick up an engine gearbox and all ancillaries for £4000 then to mod the engine to its full potential would cost in the region of another £5000 so this is an option but i feel a standard rs4/6 engine will cope pretty well in standard trim. i can understand the air ride or hydraulics will be a but odd especially on a z cars frame. but has anyone done it, no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so why not be the first.

You want to chop the roof and fit frenched lights :lol: so that aint a "Real Mini," anymore.

Have you factored in how much the Z cars setup is, let alone a modded one to accept the size and weight of the new engine?

Z cars uses coilovers, the mini hydraulic kits are in place of standard rubber cones, how do you get that to work?????????? :? you may be the first, but BUDGET is a premium here, you will be looking at 45k in parts, let alone labour.

Sounds like a rock of shit to me, but hey, each to thier own. :D

[rs6mini]

i would get a hydraulic kit made to fit where the coilovers fit on the z cars kit. z cars have said they can fit the rs6 or rs4 twin turbo motor into there cage if i can supply dimension of the engine and box, and various mounting points. or hey just send them the motor and they do all the measuring for me. then i just fit the kit as per an ordinary kit. the engine i will use is the twin turbo lump that pushes near 450 brake in standard form. i think it will be a tight squeeze, or more like fitting a jcb into a single garage but hey who knows yet, have to wait and see.

[rs6mini]

Just one question where would you sit?

Cheers
David

same place as if an ordinary z cars kit fitted

[Minicooper]

Just one question where would you sit?

Cheers
David

same place as if an ordinary z cars kit fitted

What would be the setup on this, engine in front using the original 4wd or engine in the rear converted to rear wheel drive only or front engined rear wheel drive only?

Cheers
David

[Minimivic]

this will be interesting :?

[wee man]

i think your on drugs lad????But hey dont worry ive been building my mini to go to the moon that too will be completely standard lookin and should be quicker than space shuttle. Its ok though got my backing from SIR RICHARD BRANSON :lol: :lol: :lol:

[The Mighty Mallott]

Why don't you just buy the rs4? You will need a mega bank loan to fund this, and fair enough it might fit into a mini but nothing else will. I used to work for Audi and believe me it is a HUGE lump. Unless you use the Audi Electrics, (pretty much all of them) you will have a nightmare, Plus in a mini you will NEED ABS ESP to stop yourself pasting your body around the nearest tree/car/house/school/car park (delete as appropriate).

Have you actually driven an RS4?
I think this is one to go back into the 'just dreaming' pot.

You asked what people thought, thats what i think.

By the way how old are you?

Mat

[XEValver]

RS4s are fantastics cars... the engine is perfectly suited to the car, both with weight and power. i agree with the others, i think you will have more fun in an RS4 than an RS4powered mini... UNLESS you were doing it just to say that it can be done.... which is a suitably dump waste of money, since you'd have to drive it, and as soon as you do, it'll get pitted into a tree.... then you'll know why its never been done before.

given the choice, i'd take the rs4 over the mini any day :oops:

[Minimivic]

given the choice, i'd take the rs4 over the mini any day :oops:

x2 :shock:

[cables]

given the choice, i'd take the rs4 over the mini any day :oops:

x2 :shock:

x3 :lol:

[mininut]

I'm not even going to comment as Stu covered in detail what i would have said! :D:D

M.

[wee man]

i couldnt wait any longer for you maz so i had to say somethin. Any body else wanna sponsor me on my journey to the moon? Ill bring some moon dust back!!

[B20GT]

I'll give you a tenner for the american flag up there :lol:

So, did u get a price from Chris? Gotta be in the region of £25k+ for the basic mechanical :lol:

[Mintegra]

Isnt the Width of the Audi RS4 / RS6 twice that of a mini?? Also if you intend to use the Quattro system you would have to make immense alterations to the rear axle... And as previously mentioned - Where would you sit??...

Its hard enough trying to squeeze a 1.8 ITR into one!!... never mind a v6 Biturbo 4WD monster...

I dont think its possible and if it is I think its a complete waste of money!!..

My bro has the RS4 B5 and its an awsome car - that would do perfectly for me!!!

My opinion though!

C

[MiniManiac2001]

given the choice, i'd take the rs4 over the mini any day :oops:

x2 :shock:

x3 :lol:

x4 :P

[KMP]

given the choice, i'd take the rs4 over the mini any day :oops:

x2 :shock:

x3 :lol:

x4 :P

uh..... x5

[Schizzo]

given the choice, i'd take the rs4 over the mini any day :oops:

x2 :shock:

x3 :lol:

x4 :P

uh..... x5

x6 :shock: :?

[fbm-spec]

:D

[Owen]

What I wanna know is...why are you putting it into a mini? Sure it will be fast as hell, but a mini is not really renowned for aerodynamics and high speed stability (a bit sketchy over 100).

[matt]

Fiat brava rear lights :lol: