Metro brake conversion

Hello all, I have some questions in regards to metro vented turbo brake's: First I have already purchased the rotors, pads, calipers, fitting kit and brake line conversion. I need to know what hubs and drive flanges are the best way to go as well as if they will require modification? Thanks

[MattG]

http://www.ime.org.uk/ime/m/metro_4pot.html

Thank You, I believe I understand more of what needs to done, I was also told there may be someone that sells a conversion flange, is this true?

[evolotion]

convertion flange!? what?

you need : mini: -

hubs
wheelbearings
outerCV (off a late 8.4 inch braked mini)

metro: -
drive flanges (may need modified depending on if your wheel fits over the tangs, 5 mins work with a hacksaw ;) )
Disks
Calipers

Aftermarket: -

ERA caliper bolts
Conversion hose set.

Thanks, I have been led astray with the whole drive flange thing. Someone said I could buy an aftermarket drive flange that would bolt directly to the metro rotor and without modification (ie. hacksaw) bolt any wheel on, obviously not the case....thanks for clearing it up.

[DaveTown]

You can buy from Minispares aftermarket Metro vented drive flanges which have no wheel locating lugs on them.

http://www.minispares.com/Product.aspx?pid=36942

Also if anyone else is considering this conversion ring up your local motor factors (Partco, Jayar etc) for a price on the calipers. I got mine trade through work and paid about £85 for the pair, where as Minispares will charge £100 a side for the same recon units.

Dave

[evolotion]

got mine thro a motorfactors too, 35 each(i think), with stainless pistons too :D

Thanks guys, just what I was looking for, these flanges were exactly what I was asking about.

I am a little concerned about chopping off the lugs on a drive flange as surely these are all part of the strength of the suspension/wheel setup. I had a problem recently where on a mini I had just bought the centre bore of the wheel was 4mm larger than the diameter of the flange lugs. I was unaware of this until on a windy country road there was a loud PING and something shiny shot off the front of the car into the bushes. When I stopped I discovered one wheel nut missing and one of the studs had sheared off level with the flange! No doubt you will say the wheel nuts had not been done up tight enough & had worked loose but if the wheel had fitted the flange correctly the stud shoud not have sheared off. My brother had a similar event some years ago on a boat trailer where the lugs had been removed. There must be some reason for the lugs, I don't think they are there to make changing the wheel easy! Does any one else have any similar stories or a sound engineering reason for having the lugs? I believe that the wheel MUST fit on these lugs to be safe. I hill climb & spring my mini so I don't think I will be removing my lugs but instead machine the wheel to fit.

[evolotion]

machine the wheel to fit if you want. iv done a good 20k+miles with no lugs (and various engines) and 10k of those with the valver. had no bother.

the lugs are there (imho) to take the load of the wheel leaving the studs to simply hold the wheel onto the face of the flange. but plenty of cars (not just minis!) rely solely on the studs to centre and carry all forces excerted on teh wheel, like i say i'v had no bother and im runing the usual, stupidly offset 7*13's :)

got to add though, i have had a wheel stud sheer before, but that was due to them comeing loose but one remaining tight, and on a sharp corner, the tight one pinged off.